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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:58 AM
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what is an exceptable ring gap on an engine that is what i would still consider a street engine that i would be se a good hit of nitrous say between a 150 and 200 shot. it is on my afr headed, forged 383 with 9.7:1 compression. i check a few top rings for their gap and they measured .020". is that around where it should be? am i being too picky? thanks
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what is an exceptable ring gap on an engine that is what i would still consider a street engine that i would be se a good hit of nitrous say between a 150 and 200 shot. it is on my afr headed, forged 383 with 9.7:1 compression. i check a few top rings for their gap and they measured .020". is that around where it should be? am i being too picky? thanks
You need to go with the recommendation of the piston manufacturer on this. Even with a given piston, gap settings can vary by the intended usage.
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i figured it out now. i didn't read it right the first time.
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I gap my Nitrous stuff at bore size times .0055 or .006 depending on piston type and nos hp shot.
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yeah i wasn't seeing that equation on the webpage so i was like this measurement can't be right. but then i figured out that you need to multiply them and i am right where i need to be.
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Bigger is less risky than small. I have run as much as .030 on a cast piston with no issues. If they butt 1 time it is all over. Fwiw, I usually go .024 on top and .025-.027 on second ring.
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thanks for the info. i had never really gotten that far into detail with an engine. i had mostly done heads and cams. this is kinda new.
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thanks for the info. i had never really gotten that far into detail with an engine. i had mostly done heads and cams. this is kinda new.
Sounds like you're not ignoring the important details. You will do fine.
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As per the KB forged chart, nitrous motor, given a 4.030 bore .020 is dead on. My feelings, I open 'em a bit maybe like .025, why risk a butt? I'd rather have a bit of leakage than than a broken motor.
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Bigger is less risky than small. I have run as much as .030 on a cast piston with no issues. If they butt 1 time it is all over. Fwiw, I usually go .024 on top and .025-.027 on second ring.
With .024 clearance top and .027 clearance bottom I had significant blow-by. I did a poor man's rebuild with gapless bottom rings (FE at .015, and steel at .010") with the top at .018.

My pistons are wiseco protru and were gapped orignally to the upper end of their specs. However, I have a couple of considerations that led me to change the rings specs to lower than minimal specs. First and foremost as a street driven engine coolant temp of 150-165 is too cool and minimizes ring expansion. Secondly, the pistons were coated for lowered friction and top were heat reflective coated...thus keeping the temperature of the piston down. Third, the pistons were cryo-treated stabilizng the molec-structure and what I believe also added a more efficient heat transfer through the piston material.

every motor different I guess
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My last motor had the kb hyper's. They called for .038 on the top ring. It made me sick to go that high. They claimed that it was nescessary to go that high due to the silicon in the piston. That motor always had poor ring seal.
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