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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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I have a stock 85 and with the EST disconnected the timing mark still jumps around. I would expect this with the est connected but not with it disconnected. When connected it seems like the car is hunting for the correct timing. It will even retard the timing to the point it will pop through the exhuast.

I was thinking maybe my ignition control module was going out. Does anyone have any ides?
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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Before you replace the module. Pull the cap and rotor and have a good look at the reluctor ring, they can rust up and become loose on the shaft.
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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Does it hold steady when you rev it a little. I noticed the other day that mine would periodicly jump so i was looking at the other side of the damper......for like one beat every 10 seconds or so. Strange. However if i rev'd it a little it would be rock steady. I need to look into it a bit as well. I guess it could be the EST. I'll let you know if i figure anything out and please do the same. Good luck.
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Is the reluctor ring the same as the pickup coil?
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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Is the reluctor ring the same as the pickup coil?
No, it is a "toothed" wheel under the electronics for the distributor (can see it and poke it with the module etc installed) It is the trigger for the ignition, if it is loose you'll get erratic timing.
You can find a picture here along with a step by step on tearing down your HEI.
http://www.rustpuppy.org/ignition2/Ignition%202b.htm
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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You may have a bad harmonic balancer.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Don't forget the possibilities of a loose timing chain and/or excess distributor shaft end play, too.

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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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Had time this afternoon to take a look under the rotor. Everything looks pretty new except for some of the plastoc wire covers. They have some cracks in them but nothing major. I did notice that if I try to turn the distributor shaft with my hand I have quite a bit of play. I would say somewhere between +/- 5 degrees. As it turns it rides up and down a bit. Anyone know what the limits on this free rotation should be? I am thinking new distributor gear and shims. Anyone concur?
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What you are feeling is simply the end play of the dustributor shaft. I have mine shimmed to about .008". I'll bet yours is .040" to .050" or more. That is not uncommon. It would be uncommon to have to replace the distributor gear. Check your timimg chain. I found 12° of timing variation, there.

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Your right. I measured the rise and it is .050". Even if I hold it all the way up I still have some rotation. That would make me think I had some excessive gear lash. You wouldn't happen to know what that lash should be do you?
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No, but they rarely wear out. Unless the teeth of the gear are worn to a sharp edge, I wouldn't mess with the gear.

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