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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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For those that have seen my recent threads about the motor re-do, here's an update:

Take a look at the bearings from the last motor. I'm pretty sure this caused the rod knock



Here's the old girl naked:



Here's a shot of the new heads/intake from Precision Porting:




The finished product ready to drop in on Monday:



Anyone know how I can get the pictures to show up and not just the links? I should probably shrink the filesize if I do that.

No real snags other than waiting for parts and 1,267 trips to the parts store to get gaskets. I'd guess it takes about $200 in gaskets to rebuild an LT1. Unbelievable. And that doesn't count bolts, plugs, and frickin' RTV sealant. Add another $100 for that crap. And brake clean, and mineral spirits, and on and on...

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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ScaryFast

Anyone know how I can get the pictures to show up and not just the links?
Yes. Go to http://tinypic.com/

Click on the "Browse" button, select the picture you want from your computer, click "Open", then click "Upload" at the bottom of the page. A new page at the bottom comes up with your photo. From there just right click, copy, and paste the link in the "Url" box onto your posts here on the forum just like that. You'll have pictures and not links in your posts now.

Repeat for each additional photo you wish to post.

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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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Wow I've never seen bearings that looked like that!

You left your drink under the car. Mobil 1?

Good luck on the new motor, keep us posted!
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Tip of the Day

When you realize how much it costs to replace a C4
windshield (the right way), you won't be using the
cowl as a tool caddy. Oughta find another spot for
the alternator.

Glad to see that everything is coming together well.

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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Slalom4me
Tip of the Day

When you realize how much it costs to replace a C4
windshield (the right way), you won't be using the
cowl as a tool caddy. Oughta find another spot for
the alternator.

Glad to see that everything is coming together well.

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I'll follow up on that. Or rest your hand on the base of the windshield for support.

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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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thanks for sharing.
those pictures just confirmed what I do if I blow up my motor.
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Z06 TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

once I hit 40YO, I have no ambition to do motors anymore. I'd rather be tracking !!
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Slalom4me
Tip of the Day

When you realize how much it costs to replace a C4
windshield (the right way), you won't be using the
cowl as a tool caddy. Oughta find another spot for
the alternator.

Glad to see that everything is coming together well.

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How much? I have found out why you don't set the airbox there. Luckily the windshield has scratched and I was going to replace it anyway, just not so soon.
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by RatC4
How much?
The price that comes up regularly for doing it
correctly stateside is $1,200. This jibes with
my experience in Canada a few years ago.

Here are some past threads on windshield
replacement. I list p/n's and prices of the
seal and trim parts (glass & labour is extra)
in the first two.

2003.04.01 - Replace your own windshield?

2003.07.04 - Winshield Replacement Questions

2005.09.16 - Anyway around the $300 windshield moulding?

The common denominator to the cheap fix is that
the current seals and trim are reused. If I could
remove and clean the trim as one person did, I'd
consider reuse. But I'd always choose a new OEM
seal to reduce the possibility of leaks and rework.

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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Wow I've never seen bearings that looked like that!!
I'd say it was one lap away from catastrophic failure. Parts in the oilpan.

Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
You left your drink under the car. Mobil 1?
Yeah, we were doing shots after the successful pull. Lubes up the entire digestive tract.
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Slalom4me
Tip of the Day

When you realize how much it costs to replace a C4
windshield (the right way), you won't be using the
cowl as a tool caddy. Oughta find another spot for
the alternator.

Glad to see that everything is coming together well.

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It's actually not on the cowl, it's resting just above where the computer sits, kind of on the computer bracket and the hood latch plate. Not that this is the best place for it, either :o You know how it goes, it would have taken at LEAST 2.4 minutes to undo that one bolt holding the alternator wires on so I could set it on the bench. Plus 2.4 minutes to put it back on later.

I do put tools there all the time, however. Good tip...I'll change my ways. She cost me enough money this month!
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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I have to say, those bearings were beyond toast... they were ash.

my Lord... I have NEVER seen anything like that... EVER.
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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I don't mean to be rude, but I gotta ask...why go thru the hassle of removing the hood? New carbon fiber one on the way?

You didn't need to:



FWIW, you can practically fully dress the engine prior to install...plugs, plug wires, ps pump, etc. It'll save a little time upon reassembly
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
I don't mean to be rude, but I gotta ask...why go thru the hassle of removing the hood? New carbon fiber one on the way?



FWIW, you can practically fully dress the engine prior to install...plugs, plug wires, ps pump, etc. It'll save a little time upon reassembly
Yeah, I know you don't have to remove it but it just makes things easier. It's only eight bolts and a prop rod, took ten minutes. It's nice to not have it there since the workbench is sitting right if front of the car.

It's basically dressed, I just need to put the spark plugs and wires on. The PS pump is still in the car, getting the lines on it is easier with the motor out, worth putting it back on in the car.

Alternator's easy enough in or out. Plus it's holding the windsheild down right now
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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Sooooo close...

Motor's in and just about everything's hooked up. I need to bolt the motor mounts and trans back in, do a final check, pray to all dieties I can think of, and fire it up.

Good lord, this takes a long time. I've been saying "tonight's the night" since Saturday. Had one scare when a flywheel bolt stripped (damn aluminum), but a helicoil sleeve fixed that up. Then we lost the bolt for that hole...spent 20 minutes looking for it as I got closer and closer to panicing.

Then, assuming it actually starts (has anyone had this happen on the first try?), there's mating the exhaust to the headers, hooking up the electric WP, adding fluids, breaking it in, etc.

Will it be on the track Saturday?
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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Oh, and I have to put the hood back on
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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****-retentive response, but you spelled Phoenix wrong. Go ahead, kick my azz.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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The Phoenix (thx Lichen ) has crashed and burned.

Instead of cranking it up I spent 5 hours trying to get those little square-head plugs out of the heads. After breaking 2 ratchets, 5 adapters, 10 knuckles, and running out of ideas I gave up.

Time to drill the ****'s out. Guess I'm tracking the M3 on Saturday.
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Then, assuming it actually starts (has anyone had this happen on the first try?)
Surprisingly enough, I did. Of course it ran about thirty seconds and died, but hey, it started. It cranked back up and ran after that though, thank God. Good luck with it!
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Surprisingly enough, I did. Of course it ran about thirty seconds and died, but hey, it started.
So there is hope...assuming that I can get those plugs out tonight I just may get to start it.
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Yep... those bearings look just like mine did! I had a couple that were melted together even.

Hope things are going well for you.

Mike
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