Wow. That was exciting....
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
Originally Posted by edsalinas
Designed-obsolecence.
It's not designed obsolecence, it's designed cheap. It's possible to engineer and manufacture parts that last forever, or at least, longer than you do (barring material or production defects) but nobody would buy the car.
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
It's not designed obsolecence, it's designed cheap. It's possible to engineer and manufacture parts that last forever, or at least, longer than you do (barring material or production defects) but nobody would buy the car.
I know they have their issues, but jeez... they don't have the issues the average American car has.
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Originally Posted by bogus
They already do... it's called "Toyota" or "Honda."
I know they have their issues, but jeez... they don't have the issues the average American car has.
I know they have their issues, but jeez... they don't have the issues the average American car has.
If someone wants a vehicle that will (almost) never need any work, buy a HONDA/TOYOTA...
But it's kinda like riding a Moped. It may be fun, but you wouldn't want your friends to see you doing it would you?
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Originally Posted by edsalinas
FACT!
If someone wants a vehicle that will (almost) never need any work, buy a HONDA/TOYOTA...
But it's kinda like riding a Moped. It may be fun, but you wouldn't want your friends to see you doing it would you?
If someone wants a vehicle that will (almost) never need any work, buy a HONDA/TOYOTA...
But it's kinda like riding a Moped. It may be fun, but you wouldn't want your friends to see you doing it would you?
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Originally Posted by bogus
if this makes you all feel better, my 92 has 140k miles on it and the heater core is a-ok.
I think the trick is to keep the coolant fresh.
I changed the heater core in a friends' moms 1981 Escort. It took all of 20 minutes.
I think the trick is to keep the coolant fresh.
I changed the heater core in a friends' moms 1981 Escort. It took all of 20 minutes.
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Originally Posted by bluealtered
When you go back in looking, see if you can get a small mirror in there, i know it's probably to dark in there but it's a thought.
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Originally Posted by Dynabob
Those old Escort heater cores were SO easy. Like changing a computer card! By the way Bogus aren't you still supposed to be 'honeymooning' ? Whatcha doing out there working on the car?
sadly, with our work schedules, I take the time when I can.
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Originally Posted by bogus
if this makes you all feel better, my 92 has 140k miles on it and the heater core is a-ok.
I think the trick is to keep the coolant fresh.
I changed the heater core in a friends' moms 1981 Escort. It took all of 20 minutes.
I think the trick is to keep the coolant fresh.
I changed the heater core in a friends' moms 1981 Escort. It took all of 20 minutes.
I usually flush my cooling system every 2 or 3 years, but I bought the car with 60K miles, and I don't know the history....
heh heh...so Ford actually did something right!!! 20 minutes to exchange a heater core...that is awesome!!!!! ( I diss Ford alot, but I actually bought both my kids Mustangs, and they have been very reliable cars)
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At least four separate auto parts counter jockeys told me the exact same phrase while I was in the midst of my motor re-do last month.
"Welcome to the world of Corvettes."
The ridiculous parts I'd have to order and the ridiculous prices for said parts are legendary.
Once, when I went to the Chevy dealer to pick up a part (I think it was a PS hose that time), I acted surprised (jokingly, of course) that it wasn't in stock. He took offense and went on a tirade about how it was certainly not something that they would carry, as my car was "3 generations old now" and likened it to some beater Escort (with an easy to change heater core, of course).
I'm sure his '88 Grand Am is much nicer.
"Welcome to the world of Corvettes."
The ridiculous parts I'd have to order and the ridiculous prices for said parts are legendary.
Once, when I went to the Chevy dealer to pick up a part (I think it was a PS hose that time), I acted surprised (jokingly, of course) that it wasn't in stock. He took offense and went on a tirade about how it was certainly not something that they would carry, as my car was "3 generations old now" and likened it to some beater Escort (with an easy to change heater core, of course).
I'm sure his '88 Grand Am is much nicer.
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I changed a heater core on my cousin's 1980-82? mustang (w/ ac option)
God that sucked, and took about 5 hours. It was also about 25 degrees in the garage where I was working. Only good thing, was that it was his p.o.s. car, so I wasn't too worried about breaking anything or misplacing bolts.
God that sucked, and took about 5 hours. It was also about 25 degrees in the garage where I was working. Only good thing, was that it was his p.o.s. car, so I wasn't too worried about breaking anything or misplacing bolts.
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
I changed a heater core on my cousin's 1980-82? mustang (w/ ac option)
God that sucked, and took about 5 hours. It was also about 25 degrees in the garage where I was working. Only good thing, was that it was his p.o.s. car, so I wasn't too worried about breaking anything or misplacing bolts.
God that sucked, and took about 5 hours. It was also about 25 degrees in the garage where I was working. Only good thing, was that it was his p.o.s. car, so I wasn't too worried about breaking anything or misplacing bolts.
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Originally Posted by ScaryFast
At least four separate auto parts counter jockeys told me the exact same phrase while I was in the midst of my motor re-do last month.
"Welcome to the world of Corvettes."
The ridiculous parts I'd have to order and the ridiculous prices for said parts are legendary.
Once, when I went to the Chevy dealer to pick up a part (I think it was a PS hose that time), I acted surprised (jokingly, of course) that it wasn't in stock. He took offense and went on a tirade about how it was certainly not something that they would carry, as my car was "3 generations old now" and likened it to some beater Escort (with an easy to change heater core, of course).
I'm sure his '88 Grand Am is much nicer.
"Welcome to the world of Corvettes."
The ridiculous parts I'd have to order and the ridiculous prices for said parts are legendary.
Once, when I went to the Chevy dealer to pick up a part (I think it was a PS hose that time), I acted surprised (jokingly, of course) that it wasn't in stock. He took offense and went on a tirade about how it was certainly not something that they would carry, as my car was "3 generations old now" and likened it to some beater Escort (with an easy to change heater core, of course).
I'm sure his '88 Grand Am is much nicer.
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
Originally Posted by ScaryFast
I'm sure his '88 Grand Am is much nicer.
I dunno where you got the beater ford escort notion from. Repair parts for those are probably widely available too.
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
I bet the parts for his are in stock. Why would you be surprised about them not having parts in stock for a 15-20 year old low production model?
I dunno where you got the beater ford escort notion from. Repair parts for those are probably widely available too.
I dunno where you got the beater ford escort notion from. Repair parts for those are probably widely available too.
I've worked on Corvettes long enough to know that virtually no one stocks parts for them that aren't common to multiple vehicles and move quickly off the shelf.
I guess you had to be there for the whole conversation. In the future I'll refrain from sharing anecdotes that others might find humorous unless there is no possible way that they can be misunderstood.
Last edited by ScaryFast; Nov 30, 2005 at 10:40 PM.
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No beef, I only posted that because it sounded like you were irked over it. I hate to see someone in a bad mood for a bad reason.
I always thought there's no replacement parts because they never break.
I always thought there's no replacement parts because they never break.
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
No beef, I only posted that because it sounded like you were irked over it. I hate to see someone in a bad mood for a bad reason.
PM me some sun, will ya?
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Originally Posted by ScaryFast
Nope, I just personally hate you because it's probably quite warm where you are, and here it's in the 20's and I can only work on my stupid ECM problems for about 20 minutes at a time before my hands go numb
PM me some sun, will ya?
PM me some sun, will ya?
*gee*