http://www.robertstanley.biz/firestorm.htm

 

WOW...long read but find it hard to believe...Ill believe it if it comes true.
I still remember when split fire got sued for BS HP claims.Lets see if this one stands up against the rest.

 

The claims sound bogus. Nitrogen oxides are going to be produced by combustion because air is mostly nitrogen. Running the mixture leaner increases combustion temperature and increases NOx output. The center electrode shape development is counterintuitive. Just because a tire goes bald with wear doesn't mean that that is a good design. My high voltage arc knowledge is incomplete but arcs like sharp edges. Resistor core spark plugs can have a hotter spark though of shorter duration because the energy has to stack up before it jumps the gap. The voltage and current of a normal ignition system aren't going to create a plasma. This sounds a lot like cold fusion.

 

I've worked with plasmas before. They were on very high voltage low current systems. I think there is a lot of "interesting" info in that article, but I geuss we will see....

 

I am sorry, but don´t believe a word of it. My work is the design of RF high power systems (industrial transmitters) for, among many other applications, the generation of plasma. A fast combustion takes a few milliseconds, the spark is over in a small part of a millisecond and than the combustion is a matter of pressure, mixture and chamber design (quench). So initiation is important to a limit, this is far over that limit. A secure initiation of the combustion needs a good energy in the spark, reason why electronic systems perform a little better, especially capacitor discharge systems if designed well. I tested with very high energy systems (that did eat the electrodes of the plug away in no time) and measured exhaust gas temperature as a measure of combustion effeiciency. A small improve, lowering normally less than 50 degrees C.
Also, you can consider ANY arc of spark a plasma, there is definitely NO difference between these sparks and the sparks produced by an other plug in this respect. In a plasma the outer electrons are removed from the atoms making the gas conductive, a plasma. What may be worth something is the fact that the electrodes are rounded off. That results in a higher voltage when the spark develops, so in a higher energy. Can be accomplished as well by a larger distance between the electrodes provided the coil can deliver sufficient voltage. But also there is no difference with the firestorm. Needs a higher voltage as well for the sam distance due to rounded electrodes. An other effect is that the system without resistance in the plug or lines can resonate at many MHz frequencies and actually may give a short burst of vary rapid sparcs like in the old spark-transmitter days. But the radio nabourhoud will NOT like this!!! And, as soon as the combustion has been started, more sparks don´t matter, so nothing is won.

 

Steve, Thanks for the interesting read, I guess we will have to see , but it is also interesting that he has someone like Smokey to cosign his product.

 

Well, I read the article and was going to say BS-it's already been said
so I don't need to. But, I will say two things, the comment about EPA and private businesses is completly BS, and the comment about never wearing out-I would have to say BS on this too.

 

 

Hey, now I understand the point of spark plug wires.

 

Compared to what? Horseback?

Okay...




UUhhh... ever heard of VE dumbass?


I might be prone to believe it if that article wasn't so chock-full of bull-**** and conspiracy theories.

 

What little I do know about how ignition systems, arcs, sparks, combustion, and plasmas work lets me spot a whole bunch of half-truths, false implications, faulty thinking, and just plain BS in that advertisment.
The only true variable between spark plugs is longevity. This guy's claim that his plugs will last forever might well be true, but that doesn't mean your engine will be running at peak levels forever; deposits on a plug will eventually cause problems.

I put these in the same catagory as cut-back plugs: won't hurt but won't help either.

Can I interest you in a Turbonator?

Larry
code5coupe

 

I cut back my plugs. Indexed em too. Whaddaya think about that? See my other post for how theyre discolored. I wonder why the exhaust side turns em black... maybe they're just hotter there from the hot exhaust valve?

 

Don't know of any current OEM with a plug change interval of less than 100k - had about 110K on my S10 plugs before it was totalled. Beat the crap of it, but it ran fine, it always aced emissions and the gas mileage started climbing after 70k. I'm sure the probability of losing some threads - if I ever did have to replace them - may have been high, but I kinda get the feeling that this item isn't even on the tuneup list (is anything?) for any car built in the last 5 to 8 years. Save your money for a solenoid activated valve train - Volvo has announced a working prototype which they hope to start scooting around in in early 2006. No more cams - infinitely variable valve timing - rumpa, rumpa at the push of a button (well, once you guys who know how to change the factory tune getta hold of it).

 

I think you should come to the SCMR on the 10th.

Larry
code5coupe

 

Can´t it be that it is the inlet valve that cleans the other side by blowing fresh carbon particles from the ceramic? I don´t think that cooling should be the isue because the deposition will normally be enhanced by a coldersurface. This explanation seems more logical to me because the radiation from the side of the valve should be small compared to other factors. The side is also conduction cooled when the valve is closed.. If true, the clean part should be a little bigger than the dirty part due to turbulence around the ceramic. (I guess) But it just a theory. What do you think? Response please.

 

Lemme ask a quesiton: hasn't Smokey Yunick been dead for many years? I thought I just read a piece less than a year ago that said his very modern garage building had just been sold, years after his death. And if all this is correct, where's this guy and his FirePower been hiding? This is the venture capital capital of the world. If it were such a great idea, it'd be funded and a running (no pun intended) company.

 

One big tip off that this may be bogus was his comments about the oil' company's pumping stations ... It's not likely that they are powered by spark ignition engines! Nearly all industrial engines of any size are diesel.

 

Well, I'm sure this moron will claim his plug works in diesels too, without modifying anything of course.

 

Respectfully submit spark plugs and associated wires are one of the most over hyped products purchased by consumers, and will likely to continue for some time.

Just the way it is.

Hmmm, think I'll drift out to the shop and check when I last changed my plugs, for me, it's therapy, not performance.

Hope everyone has nice Corvette weekend.

dlmeyers 90 coupe zf6 3speed shocks

 

I couldn't find anything about it on the US Patents web site... either under the Firestorm, his name or the company you can find in a Google search??

Lots of stuff from NGK on iridium plugs though...


Woops!!! I have to take that back! Two patents found.

1 6,060,822 Spark plug
2 5,936,332 Spark plug