superram on 350?
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superram on 350?
Will a superram work on a 350. If you used a 52 mm throttle body?
With 24# injectors?
Will a painless wire harness and computer?
Reason why i'm asking is i have a superram to use on a 84 vette and need a new computer and harness, does painless "perfect management system work with this? I know its for stock application but its just running a little more air. I plan to use vortec heads?
and a cam, 219 or zz9 or something close to that.
With 24# injectors?
Will a painless wire harness and computer?
Reason why i'm asking is i have a superram to use on a 84 vette and need a new computer and harness, does painless "perfect management system work with this? I know its for stock application but its just running a little more air. I plan to use vortec heads?
and a cam, 219 or zz9 or something close to that.
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everything will work just fine. the best way is to have your exstisting harness reworked from howell engine developements. it lets you retain all your dash functions. i did this on my car. my harness and speed density ecm , and all sensors that are needed are forsale if you are int
erested. including custom brackets i made for the air pump removal. i have everything needed to do this swap. i even have the original shorty headers with the emissions tubes cut off which i welded back up.
erested. including custom brackets i made for the air pump removal. i have everything needed to do this swap. i even have the original shorty headers with the emissions tubes cut off which i welded back up.
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You dont have to use a 52, but it will work just fine, as will everything else if done properly.
219 and ZZ9 are very different, you'll need to use the 219
Do Vortecs work with the Accel base?
219 and ZZ9 are very different, you'll need to use the 219
Do Vortecs work with the Accel base?
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I don't know if they have a vortec base for the SR.
According to the some 3rd gen guys, it looks like you use a vortec lower that has to have some drilling done to it. "It is not an easy walk to get things harmonized"...so whatever that means!
According to the some 3rd gen guys, it looks like you use a vortec lower that has to have some drilling done to it. "It is not an easy walk to get things harmonized"...so whatever that means!
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Originally Posted by dagrump
everything will work just fine. the best way is to have your exstisting harness reworked from howell engine developements. it lets you retain all your dash functions. i did this on my car. my harness and speed density ecm , and all sensors that are needed are forsale if you are int
erested. including custom brackets i made for the air pump removal. i have everything needed to do this swap. i even have the original shorty headers with the emissions tubes cut off which i welded back up.
erested. including custom brackets i made for the air pump removal. i have everything needed to do this swap. i even have the original shorty headers with the emissions tubes cut off which i welded back up.
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From: fall river MA
Originally Posted by nelson84
How much do you want for the harness and speed density ecm and sensors?
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Originally Posted by MrNuke
ww.SDPC2000.com has the lower TPI manifold that will work with vortec heads and the superram..
Last edited by DBLAZER4; Feb 20, 2006 at 09:13 PM.
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[QUOTE=dagrump]cost me 750.00 but ill let everything go for 400.00 . i will also include the shortys if you want them and i have a k&n airfilter for end of throttle body. i had pics of the install but can't find them right now. so you could see what i did to airpump , powersteering pump ,and ac compressor for the stainless steel brackets i made would go. if you had any questions i would be glad to help.[/QUO
Was it for a stock tpi with stock injectors, or was it heavily modified?
Could it run a 383 with that setup?
Why did you take it off your 84 vette?
Was it for a stock tpi with stock injectors, or was it heavily modified?
Could it run a 383 with that setup?
Why did you take it off your 84 vette?
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CF member 'opel' also has Vortec heads and writes that the Super Ram
will not mate to the Vortec TPI base. He contacted SDPC today to
ask what they do for the Super Ram ZZ383 but didn't get a satisfactory
answer about how they fit the runners past the intake bolts at #5&7 and #2&4.
Here is the thread with his remarks "Going to a Holley stealth ram (opel: 02-16-2006, 08:35 AM)"
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will not mate to the Vortec TPI base. He contacted SDPC today to
ask what they do for the Super Ram ZZ383 but didn't get a satisfactory
answer about how they fit the runners past the intake bolts at #5&7 and #2&4.
Here is the thread with his remarks "Going to a Holley stealth ram (opel: 02-16-2006, 08:35 AM)"
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If some one can post my pics I can show you how the SR and vortec heads/intake will not work together. I don't know how SDPC can put it on there engine part # sdzz383efi no one I talked to at SDPC seams to know either. It looks to me like it would take major mods and you would lose some of the runner diameter on two of the runners.
Dave
Dave
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PM on the way.
Edit: Here, this is probably a better approach
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Edit: Here, this is probably a better approach
Originally Posted by 85vet
Last edited by Slalom4me; Feb 21, 2006 at 12:51 PM.
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Ok try this
http://photobucket.com/albums/f34/vetteopel/
Thanks Slalom4me
The pics go from right to left far right shows the bolt hitting the SR runner, next is the gap between the runner and the intake 3/4 in. next is the runner still hitting the intake with out a bolt in, the far left is the gap with out a bolt in at 1/4 in.
Dave
http://photobucket.com/albums/f34/vetteopel/
Thanks Slalom4me
The pics go from right to left far right shows the bolt hitting the SR runner, next is the gap between the runner and the intake 3/4 in. next is the runner still hitting the intake with out a bolt in, the far left is the gap with out a bolt in at 1/4 in.
Dave
Last edited by opel; Feb 21, 2006 at 01:45 PM.
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Rather than hijack Nelson84's thread, let's carry on the
Super Ram / Vortec discussion in your thread.
Nelson84's primary concern isn't with this package (yet).
Switching over to this channel, now:.
Super Ram / Vortec discussion in your thread.
Nelson84's primary concern isn't with this package (yet).
Switching over to this channel, now:.
Last edited by Slalom4me; Feb 21, 2006 at 02:33 PM.
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[QUOTE=nelson84]
i had a superram with 30# injectors, accell base. yes it could run a 383 i had it on a 355 with afr 190 heads. took it off because of a accident. i now have a 85 with mass airflow, same motor as above. i felt it was very simple to install. you would just have to take your time and lay it out correctly. i have everything on the wiring harness labeled where it goes. if you had any ques. i could tell you what i did. howell engine developments helped me along. they could also do a new chip for your combo you decide to run or a tuner on this site could.
Originally Posted by dagrump
cost me 750.00 but ill let everything go for 400.00 . i will also include the shortys if you want them and i have a k&n airfilter for end of throttle body. i had pics of the install but can't find them right now. so you could see what i did to airpump , powersteering pump ,and ac compressor for the stainless steel brackets i made would go. if you had any questions i would be glad to help.[/QUO
Was it for a stock tpi with stock injectors, or was it heavily modified?
Could it run a 383 with that setup?
Why did you take it off your 84 vette?
Was it for a stock tpi with stock injectors, or was it heavily modified?
Could it run a 383 with that setup?
Why did you take it off your 84 vette?