Pcmforless Quiestions?????????????
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Pcmforless Quiestions?????????????
Hello
I didnt want to bother Alvin but I am mandatory for my chip to be reprogrammed. I think the upgrades(mine and the unknown from the previous owner have made it run like ****) I know that it will be customized and that it will run cooler, seat of the pants throttle response ect. ect........Id like to know how much gain is that worth into h.p.,torque, and sound.
Thanks to all who contribute 
I didnt want to bother Alvin but I am mandatory for my chip to be reprogrammed. I think the upgrades(mine and the unknown from the previous owner have made it run like ****) I know that it will be customized and that it will run cooler, seat of the pants throttle response ect. ect........Id like to know how much gain is that worth into h.p.,torque, and sound.
Thanks to all who contribute
Le Mans Master
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From: Manassas VA
IMO a lot is going to depend on what mods have been done. If it is basically stock, then a small amount of power, help smoothness, a little crisper on the throttle response, but in all honestly GM did not leave 50 hp on the table when programming these cars. But my concern would be if the car is not running well now, is it due to programming or other things ie. wires, plugs etc.?
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mods lol well im not sure all of them but ive had it dynoed at 387 crank h.p. Ive got a open lid, K&N Filter, Accel wires, Bosh +4 plugs, Flowmaster 40 series mufflers, True dual, Gutted cats, MSD Ignition, Air Foil, Power coupler, Taken off the air silencer, Lowered the Front and Rear, New suspension, BFG TIRES, ZR1 Rims, Upgraded battery,starter,coil,rotor cap ect. to high performance parts, Weight recuction, About to order some pulleys New cooling system, 160 Thermostat, Cleaned up the throttle body real good if that counts??????.New 24 lb injectors withh high performance pump and new filter........I know all that dont add up but im not sure what the previous owner did either so it stands open for guesses 
I do regular maintance, Tune ups,Cleanings, ect. So Its gotta be the computer. I hope it is because its free easy horsepower. So yea any help would be greatly needed
I do regular maintance, Tune ups,Cleanings, ect. So Its gotta be the computer. I hope it is because its free easy horsepower. So yea any help would be greatly needed
Le Mans Master
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From: Manassas VA
well with 387 crank hp it is not stock. 
I really believe you need to talk to Alvin. Do you have a way do do data scans, ie datamaster and a laptop? Without knowing the mods ie. cam size etc, I would think he will need at least that at a mimimum but again you need to ask the chief. Good luck.
I really believe you need to talk to Alvin. Do you have a way do do data scans, ie datamaster and a laptop? Without knowing the mods ie. cam size etc, I would think he will need at least that at a mimimum but again you need to ask the chief. Good luck.
Le Mans Master
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Maybe I am too late but I would warn you...
1) "I am not sure of what the previous owner did either" :LOL: !!!!! Mail-order tuning is a shot in the dark at best, you need to be able to tell the tuner 100% of what has been done otherwise there is no point at all. Things like suspension/wheels/tires yadda yadda not important. Things like fuel/air/engine NEED TO BE KNOWN!
2) Like I said mail-order tuning is a shot in the dark at best. I had poor experiences with it. IMO, I wouldn't get a chip burned until you can have it done in person.
Good luck!....You'll need it...
P.S. Oh yeah, when they mess up the burn...they'll point the finger at you/engine. So if I were you I would make sure that puppy is running smooth before I dared a mail-order. With a MAF car the tune shouldn't hurt the car (especially one so close to stock) at all, if it isn't running right, it more than likely is the mechnical aspects not the stock tune...
1) "I am not sure of what the previous owner did either" :LOL: !!!!! Mail-order tuning is a shot in the dark at best, you need to be able to tell the tuner 100% of what has been done otherwise there is no point at all. Things like suspension/wheels/tires yadda yadda not important. Things like fuel/air/engine NEED TO BE KNOWN!
2) Like I said mail-order tuning is a shot in the dark at best. I had poor experiences with it. IMO, I wouldn't get a chip burned until you can have it done in person.
Good luck!....You'll need it...
P.S. Oh yeah, when they mess up the burn...they'll point the finger at you/engine. So if I were you I would make sure that puppy is running smooth before I dared a mail-order. With a MAF car the tune shouldn't hurt the car (especially one so close to stock) at all, if it isn't running right, it more than likely is the mechnical aspects not the stock tune...
Last edited by USAsOnlyWay; Apr 3, 2006 at 12:48 AM.
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Le Mans Master
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From: Shelton CT
Originally Posted by C4driver99
mods lol well im not sure all of them but ive had it dynoed at 387 crank h.p. Ive got a open lid, K&N Filter, Accel wires, Bosh +4 plugs, Flowmaster 40 series mufflers, True dual, Gutted cats, MSD Ignition, Air Foil, Power coupler, Taken off the air silencer, Lowered the Front and Rear, New suspension, BFG TIRES, ZR1 Rims, Upgraded battery,starter,coil,rotor cap ect. to high performance parts, Weight recuction, About to order some pulleys New cooling system, 160 Thermostat, Cleaned up the throttle body real good if that counts??????.New 24 lb injectors withh high performance pump and new filter........I know all that dont add up but im not sure what the previous owner did either so it stands open for guesses I do regular maintance, Tune ups,Cleanings, ect. So Its gotta be the computer. I hope it is because its free easy horsepower. So yea any help would be greatly needed
I do regular maintance, Tune ups,Cleanings, ect. So Its gotta be the computer. I hope it is because its free easy horsepower. So yea any help would be greatly needed Remember '86's came with 235hp. Your engine might be a 383, different heads , different cam, etc ...
Drifting
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From: Middletown New Jersey
Originally Posted by C4driver99
mods lol well im not sure all of them but ive had it dynoed at 387 crank h.p.
Did you pull the motor from the car? Otherwise how would you have gotten a legitimate hp rating at the crank? Please tell us more details about where and when you got this info. Something doesn't sound right.
Drifting
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From: Charlotte NC
St. Jude Donor '05
Hey, If you have any questions or anything just send me a email alvin@pcmforless.com.
you can also call however i've been spending all day in the machine shop lately and between not getting a good signal and it being loud as crap I don't even try to answer my phone until I get back to my office.
you can also call however i've been spending all day in the machine shop lately and between not getting a good signal and it being loud as crap I don't even try to answer my phone until I get back to my office.
Le Mans Master
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From: Louisiana
Originally Posted by GlennS87
Did you pull the motor from the car? Otherwise how would you have gotten a legitimate hp rating at the crank? Please tell us more details about where and when you got this info. Something doesn't sound right.
