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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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Hey guys, I lost my only ignition key, for my 87 vette. Any insight on getting a replacment key with the correct vats code? From the local dealer?
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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well the only thing you can do is to have a lock smith come to your house and put in a new cylinder and drill the old one out
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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Check with the dealer to see if they can get the correct key blank by the VIN. There are 14 different resistance values for the key so they need to know which key works. You may have to take your registration and picture ID to get a key.

The ignition cylinder can be removed and a key made to fit the existing cylinder or you can buy a new cylinder that typically includes a new key cut to fit and with the correct resistance.
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Check with the dealer to see if they can get the correct key blank by the VIN. There are 14 different resistance values for the key so they need to know which key works. You may have to take your registration and picture ID to get a key.

The ignition cylinder can be removed and a key made to fit the existing cylinder or you can buy a new cylinder that typically includes a new key cut to fit and with the correct resistance.
A dealer ship should be able make you a key from the VIN#. I think my dad ran into this same problem and they were able to use the VIN# for a new key. Unless the ignition cylinder has been changed from stock, this should not be a big problem.
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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i went to the dealer and they couldn't get the code by vin... But they loaned my a decoder device that lets you try all the codes until you find it. You then give them to code and they make a new key. Good luck
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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Personally, I'd get a new cylinder from the dealer and have it installed.

The reason I say this is that the contacts inside the cylinder get corroded over time and eventually effect the resistance reading for the VATS, then you can't start the car and have to go through the "wait 10 minutes and retry"...

Chances are that it's the original ignition, and now is the perfect time to change it out. You'll get 2 keys with code tabs, keep 1 in a safe place and only use it to get a replacement key made from it. You'll never have an issue with the key not working if you do it that way (been there...done that).

Good luck...
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Originally Posted by tsiawd1028
Hey guys, I lost my only ignition key, for my 87 vette. Any insight on getting a replacment key with the correct vats code? From the local dealer?

The same thing happened to me last year. Here's a thread discusing it.


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...m_id=48&arch=1
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Unless the dealer it was bought from keeps records longer... I don't think you will find that a GM dealer can access the key code from a VIN #...fora car over 10 years old.
It is one of the reasons, I cut a spare key and leave it in the safe deposit box.
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Unless the dealer it was bought from keeps records longer... I don't think you will find that a GM dealer can access the key code from a VIN #...fora car over 10 years old.
It is one of the reasons, I cut a spare key and leave it in the safe deposit box.

If its the same as when I went through this last year the "cut" code for the key may be on file but the "vats" code likely will not.
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Originally Posted by C4driver99
well the only thing you can do is to have a lock smith come to your house and put in a new cylinder and drill the old one out
Not really. I lost mine and a local locksmith cut a new blank key to turn the ignition switch. Once that was done he used a meter to determine that correct pellet value, and transfered the key profile to a another blank key with that value pellet already on it to crank the car. A reputable locksmith carries on hand blank VATS keys in every resistance value ready to be cut, and the equipment to determine which resistance pellet your car takes.

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Unless you are the original owner, going to the dealer is not the best idea. You are taking a risk, because the ignition cylinder could have at one time been changed out. You have no way of knowing that. There won't be any record of that, and you won't get a refund from the dealer when your key does not work.
You might also consider just replacing the unit with a new cylinder key combo as suggested, since you have no way of knowing where the key is or who has it. If someone has it they can steal your car in a heart beat. I reused my old cylinder, as my original keys where lost in the desert far away overseas.
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Originally Posted by tsiawd1028
Hey guys, I lost my only ignition key, for my 87 vette. Any insight on getting a replacment key with the correct vats code? From the local dealer?
Just curious, do you have AAA. If you do, they send a locksmith out for free. The locksmith will have a "interigator" that will tell them what the value of you pellet is. Remember, you can change the lock out all day long, but the VATS code is held in the ECM, so replacing the lock does no good without knowing the what the pellet should be.
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Originally Posted by 93*Corvette
Just curious, do you have AAA. If you do, they send a locksmith out for free. The locksmith will have a "interigator" that will tell them what the value of you pellet is. Remember, you can change the lock out all day long, but the VATS code is held in the ECM, so replacing the lock does no good without knowing the what the pellet should be.
actually the vats is stored in the ccm. another point that was made was going back 10 or more years the dealer here in dallas couldnt go back past the 10 for my `90 either. the other responder said something about borrowing a scanner or tool from the dealer. well im at a lose of breath on that one but what i ended up doing was buying a new ignition that comes with a key with out the resistor and by passing the vats. depends on your position. do you want to keep the vats which works really well ( except around here they just steal a tow truck and take the cars with it ) or it doesnt matter and your looking at a trouble free solution?
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