Cam for 2.59 gears
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Cam for 2.59 gears
Hi guys. Help will choose camshaft which to work from 2.59 gear in 383cid Miniram N/A, 2000 stall speed, 58 TB. To me to like NX276HR 224/236, 0.502/.520, 113LSA, what tell?
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From: SCMR Rat Pack'r Charter Member..Great Bend KS
Originally Posted by divette
Hi guys. Help will choose camshaft which to work from 2.59 gear in 383cid Miniram N/A, 2000 stall speed, 58 TB. To me to like NX276HR 224/236, 0.502/.520, 113LSA, what tell?
Larry
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the cam and engine combo for the cam you want is a good match, however the gear you have is way to high to make it all work properly.
are you planning to keep the 2.59 gears? consider switching to 3.54's, this will put your engine into it's poweband a lot quicker than the 2.59's. the miniram favors lower gears.
are you planning to keep the 2.59 gears? consider switching to 3.54's, this will put your engine into it's poweband a lot quicker than the 2.59's. the miniram favors lower gears.
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From: SCMR Rat Pack'r Charter Member..Great Bend KS
If you want street performance (and I think I'm reading your questions correctly), you might want to consider a ratio of from 3.5 to 4.0.
Stoplight-to-stoplight, you want steeper gears than what you have.
Larry
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Stoplight-to-stoplight, you want steeper gears than what you have.
Larry
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[QUOTE=rocco16]If you want street performance (and I think I'm reading your questions correctly), YES
I wish to find the compromise. At TPiS Big Mouth and cam 212/218 at me was greater proslipping of wheels. I thought, that I compensate low torque MR changing stall speed.
3.07 RATIO will work?
I wish to find the compromise. At TPiS Big Mouth and cam 212/218 at me was greater proslipping of wheels. I thought, that I compensate low torque MR changing stall speed.
3.07 RATIO will work?
Last edited by divette; May 2, 2006 at 02:07 PM.
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Hi guys. Help will choose camshaft which to work from 2.59 gear in 383cid Miniram N/A, 2000 stall speed, 58 TB. To me to like NX276HR 224/236, 0.502/.520, 113LSA, what tell?
I have a Comp Cams 224/230 x .503/.510 114 LSA (1.5 rockers) HR in my 406 with Super Ram, 58MM TB, 2000 stall converter with 2.59 gears and it runs fine. Slight lope at idle. The jury is still out on whether it will pass emissions, but it is supposed to.
I don't know anything about the mini ram induction as to its very low RPM torque characteristics, but with my SR, it is smooth as glass. I got caught in freezing weather a couple of months ago in the mountains and drove on very icy roads, no chains
at about 700-800 rpms in 3rd gear (about 25mph) for over a couple hours and there was never a stumble.
But the comment about the D36 the first time you hook up might be valid. I have not decided to simply wait til I break it or change to D44 ahead of time.
I have a Comp Cams 224/230 x .503/.510 114 LSA (1.5 rockers) HR in my 406 with Super Ram, 58MM TB, 2000 stall converter with 2.59 gears and it runs fine. Slight lope at idle. The jury is still out on whether it will pass emissions, but it is supposed to.
I don't know anything about the mini ram induction as to its very low RPM torque characteristics, but with my SR, it is smooth as glass. I got caught in freezing weather a couple of months ago in the mountains and drove on very icy roads, no chains
at about 700-800 rpms in 3rd gear (about 25mph) for over a couple hours and there was never a stumble.But the comment about the D36 the first time you hook up might be valid. I have not decided to simply wait til I break it or change to D44 ahead of time.
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Originally Posted by BlownV6
Am i the only one who thinks his stall is too low?
Both items should be changed.
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This is just my up to date experience and nothing more.....With drag radials , and a 150 shot(to the wheels) I ran consistant high 11's with a 1.75 60 ft time for over 6 years on my 2.59 dana 36......Now with a more built motor(400RWHP) NA, Edge 3000 2.45 STR stall ,and the exact same 2.59 carrier dana 36 but now ,cryroed and "properly set-up" and broken in with precision 3.73 thick gears and a 75 shot to the wheels... just last week (with new ET streets no less)I ran a 11.18 at 126 with a 1.65 60 FT time.....
.....will be going for the 125 shot to the wheels that Iv'e been running on the street no problem, and hopefully we'll into the 10's in a couple weeks at the next track visit.....I've been trying to blow the rear out for quite a while to put in my Dana 44 with 3.73's but no luck yet, with this rear properly set up, and broken in correctly I've proven alot of guys completely wrong, that they can handle some respectable power.(if done right, with an automatic)
.....will be going for the 125 shot to the wheels that Iv'e been running on the street no problem, and hopefully we'll into the 10's in a couple weeks at the next track visit.....I've been trying to blow the rear out for quite a while to put in my Dana 44 with 3.73's but no luck yet, with this rear properly set up, and broken in correctly I've proven alot of guys completely wrong, that they can handle some respectable power.(if done right, with an automatic)
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From: SCMR Rat Pack'r Charter Member..Great Bend KS
Originally Posted by Rich & Lisa_84
if he raises that stall and gets the engine to where it is making the most torque....Bye Bye D36 Both items should be changed.
A properly-set up D36 can live behind his automatic. (there is a reason GM went to the 44 behind the manuals only, right?)
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Originally Posted by rocco16
A higher stall speed does not increase the torque output of the engine (i.e. put more stress on the rear end)...
In addition, I think that aftermarket torque converters usually have a higher torque multiplication than stock, but not sure about that.
A properly-set up D36 can live behind his automatic. (there is a reason GM went to the 44 behind the manuals only, right?)
GM didn't install the D36 behind a manual, and they also didn't install it behind a built 383.
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From: VA
Originally Posted by divette
D36 I was not going to change on D44. If to change gear on 3.54 I shall better buy D44 in gathering