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Old Jun 3, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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Ok so first off I have a 94 auto with about 140,000 miles and recently she started running rough, she would miss at part throttle, and every now and then her idle would slowly degrade until she shut off. So I checked codes and im showing an h36 (or what ever the bad high res signle code is) so after checking all my opti wires and then rechecking I cleared the codes and it poped up again; also she has been hard to start lately. So just as the title asks is my original 140,000 mile opti finaly on its way out?

Oh I almost forgot but Im also getting I think an H42 or what ever the ICM code is, but I fail to see how one code could cause the other.
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Old Jun 3, 2006 | 11:46 PM
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H36 is a dying opti... hi-resolution side... that means timing is suspect.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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High-res fault indicates a dying Opti, almost surely. The only other possibility that comes to mind is a connection fault from the Opti to the ECM on the high-res signal line.

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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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I'm sure if you do a search on my threads you'll find the code 36 problems that I had. The mechanic I the stealership replace the coil wire and not the opti which I believe they only charged me around $200
I haven't had any trouble since. Knock on wood.
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by slicked25
I'm sure if you do a search on my threads you'll find the code 36 problems that I had. The mechanic I the stealership replace the coil wire and not the opti which I believe they only charged me around $200
I haven't had any trouble since. Knock on wood.
This is most interesting.

If anyone has a guess as to how a faulty coil wire could cause a high-res Opti fault, I'd love to hear about it.

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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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SJ - you and me both.

There is no physical relationship between that code and the coil wire...

UNLESS - the bad coil wire was causing such a consistant missfire, that the ECM could no longer adjust, the Opti threw up its hands in disgust and threw a code, because it could no longer do what it was asked to do.

It's a stretch, but sorta believable...
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bogus
SJ - you and me both.

There is no physical relationship between that code and the coil wire...
Correct. In fact, there's no physical relationship between any of the coil wires -- primary or secondary side -- and a high-res failure.

Originally Posted by bogus
UNLESS - the bad coil wire was causing such a consistant missfire, that the ECM could no longer adjust, the Opti threw up its hands in disgust and threw a code, because it could no longer do what it was asked to do.

It's a stretch, but sorta believable...
An interesting hypothesis, but I can't buy it.

Unless I'm seriously misinformed about some of this:

1. Any post-combustion adjusting the ECM would be doing would be based only upon inputs from the O2 sensors and/or knock sensors. The ECM would be only adjusting fuel trim based upon O2S inputs, and only retarding spark timing based upon KS inputs.

2. Aside from distributing spark, all the Opti does is send to the ECM pulses that are derived from the optical sensors & triggerwheel. It isn't asked to do anything by the ECM, and it doesn't have any adaptive functionality. It has no capability to receive or act upon input of any kind from the ECM.

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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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SJ - I agree... it is a stretch, at best!

But I had to throw it out there as a CHANCE, however slim.
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The orignal '92 Opti-Spark extension harness had an extra pin in the connector and a shield around the cable.
That high voltage wire runs very close to the Opti-Spark extension harness.

My guess is the high-voltage from the ignition wiring was arcing into the '94 shield-less harness.
Let's face it, that shield can't hurt anything -- but, it seems GM decided that in later LT1s it wasn't needed.

After I converted my '92 to the later shield-less extension harness, I always make sure the coil wire is as far as possible from the Opti-Spark harness.

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Originally Posted by Tom Piper
The orignal '92 Opti-Spark extension harness had an extra pin in the connector and a shield around the cable.
That high voltage wire runs very close to the Opti-Spark extension harness.

My guess is the high-voltage from the ignition wiring was arcing into the '94 shield-less harness.
Let's face it, that shield can't hurt anything -- but, it seems GM decided that in later LT1s it wasn't needed.

After I converted my '92 to the later shield-less extension harness, I always make sure the coil wire is as far as possible from the Opti-Spark harness.

Tom Piper
Now here's a hypothesis I can see as being possible. I wasn't even aware that the Opti harness was shielded in '92. A very good observation, Tom.

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yea, the 92 had this wrap around them.

And it is possible for the wires to touch... the opti connector is between the opti and the coil.
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