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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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Does anyone make a opti without the rotor. I was using a Dynaspark to signal my Delteq and it appears the optical sensor crapped out. Jeb installed a new 2nd gen and the rotor blew apart in no time. With lots of folks running the Delteq or LTCC setups, it would be nice to have a totally sealed unit with a cover that doesn't have any of the high voltage stuff on it. From Steve40th's
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I bought a used 20 dollar opti,, then took it apart and cut the rotor down to make it keep the metal plate down and keep the optical sensor in time.
http://teamprickracing.com/twinturbo.../another_opti/
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:13 AM
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The rumor-mill states there is a rotorless Opti-Spark in development now.

Don't know delivery on it though.


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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:22 AM
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Steve, that's what Jeb did to get it back up and running. Thanks for the great pictures. [The rumor-mill states there is a rotorless Opti-Spark in development now.] Tom, do you know if it's MSD or Dynaspark?
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http://www.dynaspark.net/gen3.htm

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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Piper
We're just waiting on a few more parts and it will be on the market. We said to expect mid June, I realize it's late June and I apologize. We are very close.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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P.S. Ramrod- Your original Dynaspark can be sent to us and converted to a gen 3.
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Not to hijack but what exactly fails in the opti? I can see water rusting the slits and causing problems but aside from water damage it's a pretty simple unit. I took mine apart to inspect it even though I wasn't having any problems with it. There's like 5 parts in the whole thing. I can see maybe the bearing failing, or the pickup crapping out but other than that there's not too much to go wrong if it's sealed well. Which is another reason I took it apart, to clean and seal it.

Even if the bearing fails, it must be available somewhere, and the pickup has a part number on it though I didn't check to see if it was available either.

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Not to hijack but what exactly fails in the opti?
Optical sensor, rotor, and the bearing.
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How much does an optical sensor cost?
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First time I have heard of a dynaspark crapping out.What RPMS are you running it at?Usually the sensor is pretty much bullet proof unless some thing else breaks (rotor) due to over eving the engine.Even the Dynaspark can take only so many rpms Around 7K if I remember right (correct me Dynaspark if I am wrong)I suspect some reason for your failures in the timing cover and it might be a good time to check everything out unless you ar over reving it.

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Originally Posted by DYNASPARK
We're just waiting on a few more parts and it will be on the market. We said to expect mid June, I realize it's late June and I apologize. We are very close.
Can you post any pictures on the "rotorless" Opti-Spark?

Is it possible it is thin enough to remove/replace without taking the damper pully off the hub?

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Originally Posted by Tom Piper
Can you post any pictures on the "rotorless" Opti-Spark?

Is it possible it is thin enough to remove/replace without taking the damper pully off the hub?

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That would be nice. One less hard to remove part that would need to be removed.
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Originally Posted by Redeasysport
First time I have heard of a dynaspark crapping out.What RPMS are you running it at?Usually the sensor is pretty much bullet proof unless some thing else breaks (rotor) due to over eving the engine.Even the Dynaspark can take only so many rpms Around 7K if I remember right (correct me Dynaspark if I am wrong)I suspect some reason for your failures in the timing cover and it might be a good time to check everything out unless you ar over reving it.
Check out Jeb Burnett's reply in this post... http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1423356 I think Jeb has it set at about 6500. The cam goes into valve float at about 6800 according to the specs http://www.cranecams.com/?show=brows...41&lvl=2&prt=5

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Originally Posted by Ramrod92
Check out Jeb Burnett's reply in this post... http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1423356 I think Jeb has it set at about 6500. The cam goes into valve float at about 6800 according to the specs http://www.cranecams.com/?show=brows...41&lvl=2&prt=5
I guess that makes 2
Appearently nothing is bullet proof
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Originally Posted by steve40th
I bought a used 20 dollar opti,, then took it apart and cut the rotor down to make it keep the metal plate down and keep the optical sensor in time.
http://teamprickracing.com/twinturbo.../another_opti/
Unreal! WTF is wrong with GM. Why couldn't they have come up with a stronger plastic compound to withstand high RPM's??? Especially when it is a PITA to replace an Optispark. Maybe some kind of fiberglass mixture or something... Stuff like this sux...
Friggin' Nimrods....
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Unreal! WTF is wrong with GM. Why couldn't they have come up with a stronger plastic compound to withstand high RPM's??? Especially when it is a PITA to replace an Optispark. Maybe some kind of fiberglass mixture or something... Stuff like this sux...
Friggin' Nimrods....
The engineers built a great design, but I believe the bean counters couldnt justify everything they wanted, hence the 92-94 open to the elements with no venting like 95 up. Who knows, we must deal with it, or by LSx or go back and get L-98.
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Originally Posted by Ramrod92
Does anyone make a opti without the rotor. I was using a Dynaspark to signal my Delteq and it appears the optical sensor crapped out. Jeb installed a new 2nd gen and the rotor blew apart in no time. With lots of folks running the Delteq or LTCC setups, it would be nice to have a totally sealed unit with a cover that doesn't have any of the high voltage stuff on it. From Steve40th's
The one I put back in your car IS rotorless now... I built a "retainer disk" out of T6 aluminum (.090") and bolted it in place of where the rotor once was. The rotor has to be in there to hold the magnetic pickup disc in place; but you can build a retainer and use it instead. I don't think that piece will blow up like the rotor did.

Personally I think the Delteq is the way to go on these cars... Use a stock Opti and eliminate the rotor; it's rare that the optical eye goes out on them (unless the rotor blows apart ). I do not talk badly about ANYONE and there's a furthermore to that; but Ransome has had TWO Dynaspark's go out and EVERYTHING was followed to the letter in their installations. But they're a standup company and have offered to repair the units on both occasions; I just elected to eliminate it as one of the headaches I was dealing with on his car.
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The one I put back in your car IS rotorless now... I built a "retainer disk" out of T6 aluminum (.090") and bolted it in place of where the rotor once was.
Jeb, yea, I got that and so far haven't had any problems with it. I just would like to do something with my $600 paperweight. I'm planning to send it to Dynaspark sometime soon and have them remove the rotor,replace the optical sensor, then maybe put some kind of cover like this on it...
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I have to agree with JBurnett with the aluminum piece. My oem rotor broke off one of the "ears" and was barely holding in place with the other ear. But it was 10 years old with 120k miles. Still, crappy material. Why does my motorcycle rotor that spins twice as fast seem to last forever...

I think it is the plastic-it gets old and goes thru too many heat cycles and becomes brittle. My other bitch is those tiny tiny screws that hold the rotor in place. Most well stocked garages don't even have a tool for that part. If you can't find a Matco or Snap-On truck, make sure the neighbors can't hear you while you're getting those screws out.
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