Anyone have one of these or know anything about these? I see it in the ecklers book and I am considering getting it. Its 300 bucks but it says it adds 22hp.

 

It doesnt add 22hp, you should know BS when you see it. As are all the other power adders in that catalog, other than the catback exhausts.

Vortex is crap, do NOT buy it.

 

After a year, I threw mine in the recycle bin. Not just crap, but the crappiest crap in the history of crapdom.

 

You will find great posts on this forum regarding this piece. Believe it or not most have NOT tried it out, and many stories have been recycled over the last few years to put down this product. I recently installed the vortex intake duct and added a filter that is larger and flatter (custom K&N). I had a pastic box molded to fit over the new filter. So Basically i have the same setup but just a larger filter (figured the motor might need more air since its a 388 that revs fairly high).

tuning the other night with the same tune that was in it with the cut filter lid has my wideband reading a much leaner mix at speed. This is on a 15 degrees warmer night. I basicaly had to autocal everything at speed because its getting more air to the filter. The car also runs cooler.

There was a dyno test of a claw vs cutout and IMO its a worthless test. they both are filters sucking hot underhood air. I think the BPP wouldn't gain much either because of the heat radiating from the radiator cavity when the car is sitting still. If there is a strong enough fan to have some air move through and at anything more than 10 mph I can bet this setup will gain.

 

Ahahahaha

 

Well I have to disagree with the guys on this one. I've had mine for 4 months. I got the clear lid and I didn't think it was crappy at all. The plastic didn't seem to flimsy and seemed thick to me. The install was easy. Need to cut above the radiator with a templet (I used a rotozip) The plastic Lid goes on with 4 bolts. You attach the filter, ect...(of course there are other steps involved) There is no discoloration on the plastic and it has not melted at all from underhood temps. As far as 22 HP I don't know...however, there is definetly a power gain. I felt it SOTP. and you get that cool sucking noise. Is it worth the $$$ ? Well from what I hear you can use your stock set-up and just cut out where the filter sits. You'll net the same results. Hopefully Iam not wrong here and Mine doesn't melt on me or something I read the reviews on it to from everyone and decided to go against the grain. I hope I didn't make a mistake. I'll get back to ya in 8 months

Pics: sorry you can't really see the clear lid

 

. Its just a money grabber!

 

I thought that mine was great for a few months too. Then it began to warp and warp and warp. Plus on the dyno, we noticed that the black plastic part that goes to the tb was actually collapsing on itself. We disconnected the filter and I gained 11 rwhp. Plus it's a pain to remove the filter for cleaning when you have an oversized radiator. Use cut lid with K&N or paper filter. Works just as good or better for a lot less money.

 

I have got the SLP system for my 88 Corvette. I havent tried it yet, but I can see the plastic intake ram is a little cheesy. So I'm taking the lid to a machine shop a friend of mine owns, he is a magician with aluminum. I am going to get a good aluminum one built. Then when I put it throught the slot that goes into my high presure area. I will have aluminum side, and bottom flairs. Kinda like a funnel but square. With this set up, I will have Ram Air big time. When I get to that part I will post it. No need to settle for what is mass produced for you. Put your brain to work, re-engineer that bad dog. Then You will have something that works the way the good ole' craftsmen of the 40's, and 50's used to design there stuff. Money was of secondary importance. However today, money is God, and everybody worships it. Well that''s fine by me. I'll just re-engineer the crap there shoving on the public, and get a big wide grin everytime I press down on the gass pedal...

 

Back to back testing at the track reveals a .2 gain with the BPP over the SLP.

 

No offense but it's a waste of money. I would be surprised if it adds 2.2 horsepower. Get a set of 1.6 roller rockers for the same kind of money and those will put 15-20 more horses to the wheels. I never did just the rockers by themselves so I don't have a dyno pull for just the rockers on an otherwise stock motor but those will add some horses.

 

Its sure a waste of money, but had not have any problem driving it though. Good thing is i like the hisssing sound it makes when u r at near front end. I had mine cut lid K & N filter went back, if u want u can have it for 100 bucks. pm me if u r intersted.

 

[QUOTE=Jared1984]Well I have to disagree with the guys on this one. I've had mine for 4 months. I got the clear lid and I didn't think it was crappy at all. The plastic didn't seem to flimsy and seemed thick to me. The install was easy. Need to cut above the radiator with a templet (I used a rotozip) The plastic Lid goes on with 4 bolts. You attach the filter, ect...(of course there are other steps involved) There is no discoloration on the plastic and it has not melted at all from underhood temps. As far as 22 HP I don't know...however, there is definetly a power gain. I felt it SOTP. and you get that cool sucking noise. Is it worth the $$$ ? Well from what I hear you can use your stock set-up and just cut out where the filter sits. You'll net the same results. Hopefully Iam not wrong here and Mine doesn't melt on me or something I read the reviews on it to from everyone and decided to go against the grain. I hope I didn't make a mistake. I'll get back to ya in 8 months

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you're not going against the grain ! I was reporting actual Data with a wideband and datalogs. My car clearly gained more air at speed than the cut lid & K&N. i will never go back to an underhood breathing setup after tuning my car. a cut lid and filter is NOT the best setup for the c4, as much as people want to believe.

My old clear lid was slightly discolored that's why i bought a new system. I also had the early ducts prone to cracking. The new system i recieved was beefier. I think many people failed to realize that you should be careful not to overtighten the clamps with this duct and with the heat it caused warping/cracking.

I just scored a Forced air setup so I'll be switching to that because i like how it looks

 

We did some back to back testing years ago at the track and found the BPP gained a tenth over the TPiS setup. The gain was more noticable(on the timeslip) after the 1/8th mile.

There were some quality control issues on both the C4 and C5 system and that's what has kept me from buying one(I should have took the free one from them when I had the chance).

You won't feel any gain with any of these airbox swaps. The stock setup works pretty well.

 

Mr Mojo, I was quoting what the great JP told me about the intake.

 

Has anyone tested the BBP/TPIS against the license plate ram air system? Just curious, I'm pretty happy with my cut lid and K&N? I agree with steel breeze. Check out what these guys are doing to the Mustangs. http://www.corral.net/tech/powerplant/ram-cold-air.html $20?? My only concern with this setup and the license ram air is water intake. There has to be someone around here with similar plans for the vette.

Thanks

 

I've always been curious about these cold air systems, but competing in stock class solo2 restricts the modifiacations that I can do. I have to have a convertible set-up, to change from a street/strip set-up over to an autocross set-up without any major surgery. I recently installed an open air cleaner lid on my '90 and haven't really felt a difference, might take it to the strip next week to test it. I've got that, a K&N, and a Flowmaster ForceII cat-back. Is it possible that those modes could lean out my factory speed density set-up?

 

its possible, but highly unlikely for something so trivial

 

I have one sitting next to the trash can waiting for new radiator shroud decals so I know where to put them. A real piece of crap for sure. The box broke twice and was replaced; intake snorkel cracked all the time and was held together with silicone. Not only that, it was a pain in the *** to clean the filter. Horrible quality control and very cheaply made.

Take your stock air intake and cut the louvers out of the front cover. Get a cheap filter and a K+N filter. Cut the guts out of the cheapo and put the K+N on top so you have more volume in the airbox. Looks closer to stock and works just as well as the POS Vortex especially if you cut out the front bumper and put an air opening in it.

 

I find this vortex interesting. It has a filter about the size of my lawn mower air filter. To top it off, it says vortex. A vortex is twisting air much like a tornado. When you pull the plug on your bathtub, and see the water swirl, that is also a vortex. I've not actually seen one of these units, so I can't be an expert. But does it have a special air intake that makes the air spin in a vortex, or is it named that, because it sounds technical?

To many people injection molding cheap stuff for the corvette. After all we are all rich. What's a few hundred bucks, for something, almost everything aftermarket, that doesn't work? :