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I wanted to install a different distubitor and check all components in it to rule out weak spark. I had purchased a distubitor (I.D. #1103879) that came from a 85 vette. I pulled the one out of my 86E (I.D. 1103680) with the rotor pointing at #1 plug and had the IM tested (passed), pick up coil ohmed, plug wires ohmed, and installed a new rotor and cap (due to the terminals being loose on the old one). I noticed a little more play on the old distubitor. Got everyting back together on the 85 distrubitor and started to install. My dad and I worked on installing the bastard for an hour and 20 minutes. The engine was not turned and the only way it would go in was pointing at # 5 plug or at the alternator. After a few cuss words and turning the oil pump shaft 40 times, we decided to try the old distrubitor and it fit the first time at #1 plug. So we just used the old distrubitor and the new parts. What could be different about the two? They looked the same, but the teeth must have been at a different orintation??
the distrib gear has an odd number of teeth ( 13 iirc) and can be rotated 180* to align if req'd....but the roll pin holes for gear/shaft appear to be randomly located in manufcture anyway.
spiral cut of the gear makes the shaft turn as you drop the dist in as i'm sure you have noticed...the distrib rarely hits the oil pump drive right to let the distrib drop in that last 1/4'' drop, even multiple attempts.
i just drop the distrib in where ''i'' want it to point, allowing for that last 1/4'' drop, crank the engine over once, maybe twice, and the distrib makes a small ''thunk'' as it seats on the manifold....bump the engine back to #1 TDC and make sure #1 on the cap is where it should be.
very wierd, I thought 84-86 were the same, and 87-91 were the same, just how the cap attached.
This is what I thought as well. We tried approx. 30 times to set the 85 distrubitor in and it would not point at #1 no matter how many times/ways we tried. The old distrubitor set in the first time at #1. The looked like twins, bit with different I.D numbers. By that time we were so frustrated from not making progress we just went with the old one. The distubitor that was/still in it is not the original, BTW.
I can imagine it dropping in pointing at #6, which would be 180* off, and #5 is next to #6, so I'm kinda wondering if maybe you're not a tooth off? just thinking with my fingers.
The gear has 13 teeth and a drill/index mark above the roll pin. Did both distributers have that drill mark in the same location as: ie. either under the rotor pointer, or oppositte to the pointer. If both were different, then you would have needed to twist the distributer body more to get it to fire. Provided of course everything was right with the new one.
The gear has 13 teeth and a drill/index mark above the roll pin. Did both distributers have that drill mark in the same location as: ie. either under the rotor pointer, or oppositte to the pointer. If both were different, then you would have needed to twist the distributer body more to get it to fire. Provided of course everything was right with the new one.
Yes, they both had 13 teeth . As for the drill mark, I would have to take a second look at them. I did notice on the oil pump slot, at the bottom of the gears, one was more tapered that the other but shouldn't have made a difference.
Yes, they both had 13 teeth . As for the drill mark, I would have to take a second look at them. I did notice on the oil pump slot, at the bottom of the gears, one was more tapered that the other but shouldn't have made a difference.
The orientation of the drill mark would only matter if you made a mark where the original timing would have been set. Placing the new distributer using your marks, and the gear located 180* different, would then be putting the rotor in a slightly different postion from your original starting place. It would then require twisting the body of the distributer to get it to fire.
When installing the 85 distubitor I tried everything, turning the body and trying different degrees all the way around. Seemed like the more I tried each different way I turned it, it would sit in a different gear everytime I turned it except sit at #1 cylinder, if that makes sense. The old distrubitor had a mark on the intake manifold and the base of the distubitor where it seats. Tried everything for about 1 hr 20 min. We looked at both over and over and saw no differences.
On an OEM gear ('89), the roll pin hole is in alignment
with the root of the adjacent gear teeth on the dimple side.
It aligns with the peak of a tooth on the side opposite the
dimple.
I'm not sure this haf-tooth difference would be enough to
make the unit difficult to install.