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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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I just got my Dad's '89 vette and when coming across the country it was running too hot, 225 f. So I stopped in a Chevy dealer in Nebraska. He did tests on the relays, etc and said it was the mother board. I drove home with the defrost A/C on, was the only setting for the fan to work. I notice there are many after market fan/thermostat products. Can I bypass the expensive mother board and run the fan with one of these after market products?

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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Short answer is yes. It will be much easier if you have an aux. fan. See if there is a fan in front of the rad, if so, there should be a sensor switch between plugs 1 and 3 in the head on the drivers side. You can replace that sensor and turn on one or both fans from there. Please fill in your profile info, it will help answer some questions.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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I removed the aux. fan on mine and the temp. dropped as there was more flow on the radiator. A fan is not going to help at cruising speed. You probably need to clean out the space between the radiator of debris. Also, is the coolant old?
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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The coolant was just changed. I will clean 'er up and try a after market fan. By the way, at highway speeds and the defrost A/C on it runs about 190F.

Thanks for your help.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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Would this work?
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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190° is a good temp. on the highway. Was the thermostat changed for a lower temp.? Stock is 195° so the car is running cooler then it did new. That kit would change the front aux. fan to come on sooner. On my car the main fan, controlled by the ECM is enough.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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That switch will work.....but I think one with the on at 200 and off at 185 is less demanding on the fans...that's what I run on my 87 with a 180 thermo.....I rarely ever see over 210 in 90 degrees stop and go, and usually cruise around 180-185.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MattElle
I just got my Dad's '89 vette and when coming across the country it was running too hot, 225 f. So I stopped in a Chevy dealer in Nebraska. He did tests on the relays, etc and said it was the mother board.

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First, 225° isn't REALLY too hot, but it is hotter than you should see cruising, "across country". Possibly, you didn't explain the details to the dealer, or maybe to us. At highway speeds running fans can block air flow. You don't want them running, when you are "coming across the country". The main fan isn't programmed to come on before 225°, anyhow, so I can't imagine what they can say malfunctioned. The fans provide air flow when the car speed isn't fast enough to force air through the radiator. Again, a running fan can inhibit air flow, as can a build up of debris between the radiator and the condenser, so common to all C4s. Pull the radiator and clean that space, the condenser, and the radiator. Save your hard earned money on unneeded patches, by performing a little maintenance.

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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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I appreciate everyone's input. The mechanic at the Chevy dealer said the mother board was showing a ground. He could not get the fan to come on. The only time it got hot was in traffic at slow speeds not at highway speed.
What is a hot temp for the L98?

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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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I appreciate everyone's input. The mechanic at the Chevy dealer said the mother board was showing a ground. He could not get the fan to come on. The only time it got hot was in traffic at slow speeds not at highway speed.
What is a hot temp for the L98?

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I'm not sure what you are referring to as the "mother board". The ECM is a computer that probably does have a "mother board" but the instructions for the computer, such as fan on and off temps are burned into the prom for the ECM. I believe the on temp for your fan is in the high 220° range, 227° or so. The ECM causes the fan to run by grounding the primary side of the fan relay, so once again, it is difficult to decipher what you are being told. If the hottest it got was 225°, that isn't really hot, and probably not hot enough to activate the fan. Check your owners manual or FSM for the proper fan temps for your car. Your statement, "when coming across the country it was running too hot, 225 f.", leads one to believe it was running 225° F at highway speeds.

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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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228* stop and go in the summer is not bad. Your main fan will come on at that temp if it were working correctly. Mid America has a 200* on 185* off sensor/switch kit. That is what I am using.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Wow, thanks everyone. I really do appreciate your assistance. I will do some research. I did not get an owners manual. When my father died I was left the vette, but couldn't find any manuals. I am ordering an owners manual and Chilton's. The car, unfortunately, will sit idle until I get back from Iraq.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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You really need a FSM, as suggested above, if you plan on doing any serious work on your vette. The Chiltons and Haynes manuals are O.K. to look at for pictures, but do not supply the information to specific things on your year car. The main fan should come on at 227* and aux fan at 235*. The main fan is controled by the ECM and the aux fan by a switch in the left head. If your temp was 225* on the highway then you have a cooling problem. Either debris between the radiator and condensor, air in the coolant, coolant leak, or faulty thermostat.

I would check the coolant level (flush if necessary), idle the car with the radiator cap off (watch temp) and fill as needed...this should release any air trapped in the system. Also at idle you will be able to see what temp the fan comes on at and check for leaks. Clean between the radiator/condensor. I wouldn't let the engine temp get past 240* at idle.

Do you remember what the oil temp was...related to the coolant temp?
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Thanks for the tremendous amount of info. I will definitely get a factory service manual. I noticed the oil temp when I took out Labor Day was about 211 when the engine temp was 214.
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