I don't have a problem launching, I would think you would though since your throttle is closer to WOT. It would be easier to launch with all spin and go slower. It's just a theory.

I like how every time you post something controversial you defend it like a rabid dog with no proof. If you are going to go against logic every time, I say it's in your court to show us why our logic is not logical. Like your hot air intake, many people think it's logical that it would lose power but you say heck no. Well if it's so good why doesn't everyone have one? Show us why your stuff is so good, post some before and after results. It would be easy enough to make a run and then unhook your magical speed increasing switch, yes?

 

Blood oath mate,

 

Logic doesn't always equal facts and facts doesn't always equal logic,
that said Joe tried it...who else has? if he says he felt a difference in launch why bash him? At least I checked the box "I don't know" simply because I haven't tried it..and I doubt I will...but I'm not going to say it couldn't make a difference on my stock 87...unless I try it.

 

Well the fact of the matter is, if the car has been tuned correctly and every component is working and adjusted correctly, its going to make it worse not better.

Now if you can prove me wrong there with full evidence to back it up, ill admit error. But i think youll have to get up pretty early in the morning to prove this one....

 

Since you quoted me Case, this is my response...my vette is stock and is tuned as well as a stocker can be...runs great, and I run TunerPro RT and everything is good...so, the only way I would know would be to try it...which I'm not going to do...so, I have nothing to prove, on the other hand if your stating it would do absolutely NOTHING to improve the performance of MY stocker...I don't think either of us could state this without trying it. Joe felt a difference, I just don't see any need to bash him for stating he felt an improvement since it seems no one else has tried it or at least stated that on this post.

 

I feel the difference to, when I push the throttle farther.

 

All you need to know on what works vs. what doesnt can be found here- http://www.wku.edu/~nathan.plemons/htmls/increase.html

Nathan's page is so good he should be charging $$ for it


The rest of the LT1 info can be found Here-
http://www.wku.edu/~nathan.plemons/h...rformance.html

 

its because nobody can say anything CONCRETE how anything I do/did doesn't really work. All you can do is say your opinions and theories.

I never said any of my stuff was the best, or that it works better, I just say how I experience it or how it feels/works first hand.

I don't have any numbers proving either side of the case...BUT... neither do YOU or ANYONE ELSE. So, why should I take all the flack for something I did when nobody can prove for a FACT that whatever I happened to do does nothing for me at all?

Why should I have to spend my time and money and effort to prove myself right when nobody can prove me wrong? I am CERTAINLY not saying i am RIGHT... I am just saying I did something, and I think in my own mind it will do something for me, and since NOBODY can come up with hard evidence that what I did is pointless/useless, then why should I think otherwise?

BTW: This isn't aimed directly at you, I use "you" as a collective term.
I really enjoy seeing what people think of some of this stuff.

Because A - i notice a differene. Something has changed in the way the car takes off the line. I can prove that for a fact. I can FEEL it. Technically, or mathmatically, I can't prove anything because I don't really know what all it does (except after reading all the above replies on it)... now I know.
B - where am I going to test this at? Like I said before... I am not made of money. I can't just drop everything I am doing to goto the track or find a dyno.

Also, my car is not up to speed yet (i still need injectors) to be able to do any testing yet. Once I get my new injectors, I will DEFINATELY test all this stuff out to prove once and for all if it does anything or not. I can't test my "hot air intake" though because i dont have the stock box anymore


and on the subject of this throttle thing... check this out. I removed it this morning...and my car idles lower, and runs SMOOTHER... I don't feel the seat of the pants kick anymore though, and it feels like it accellerates a LOT slower.... but it feels a lot smoother at the same time that it did with the throttle switch plugged in.

Perhaps I am blissfully ignorant in a lot of things car related, but I can't deny what I can feel when I drive the car.

 

Let me say this then. This was like the 2nd mod I ever bought for it (the throttle switch)... before I knew about the CF and all this and what it actually did... anyway... My car was bone stock (except for mufflers) and had the complete stock factory tune, completely bone stock everything, and it was running 100% perfect mint condition exactly as it came from the factory.

Are you going to say that GM can't build and tune their own cars correctly from the factory?

This switch had an immediate impact on a BONE STOCK CAR.

It still has an impact on my modded car, but runs like crap because the chip inside the switch has gone bad since then (that is beside the point)... but you can STILL feel it regardless if it is a 100% BONE STOCK CAR or if it is a highly tuned and modded car.

SO, how about trying to prove my *** wrong in the fact that it feels an immediate change from "switch" vs "no switch"? If I smash your finger with a hammer, do I have to prove with facts that you will be in extreme pain? for all I know you are faking it, and didn't feel a thing.

My point is, there is no way to prove some some of these piddly rink-a-dink mods unless someone actually tries one. I am just tired of everyone getting their supposed "facts" out of gear when they have never tried it for themselves.

 

That's a pretty cool site actually... but like everyone else, he also has no actual facts showing what it does or doesn't do.

 

BTW, please don't anyone take anything personally, I certainly am not. I am just playing the devil's advocate of this debate to see where it takes us. I am curious as much as anyone else to see what this will look like on a 1/4 time slip vs without it.

 

So do i, and i didnt have to pay anything extra to push my foot down harder
Great site isnt it. I have read it all before

I wouldnt take it personally mate no, and im glad youre not either, its not meant to be taken personally, and although me and a couple others have been accused of it, neither one of us is bashing you for your personal choice

 

Yeah, Case is right. Maybe your throttle position sensor was misadjusted to begin with and you were not getting the full 5 volts to tell the ecm to give you WOT... In no way does it make your car quicker than if you just had it setup properly to begin with.

 

You could try tapeing your multimeter to the windshield with it reading the TPS, and run it with the switch and without the switch, to see what it does. That could be interesting.

 

don't tempt me, i havn't pulled my duct tape out in a while

That would be a funny sight to roll up in a stating lane with my bright yellow rubberized multimeter taped to the windshield. "Yea, its new type of gauge guys"

 

When I push down harder, it hits the nitrous arm switch though.

OOOOHHH so... that throttle switch didn't really give me a 150HP boost?

 

If what he says about the fuel tables is true, then I would call it a fact

If you have any info that helps disprove this, let us know