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In your pictures of the Brand X 8 rib pulley install, I noticed you had your MAF located on the pressure side between the intercooler and the throttle body. I have been interested in setting mine up the same. I would greatly apreiciate it, if you could give me the information on how you did this, parts used,part numbers,etc. and where I could get them from. Thank You very much in advance
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Hey man,
yeah thats the only way to fly.. runs MUCH smoother then as a draw through.. as for parts used, none really.. just replace the piece of pipe ATI sends you with the maf and trim the hoses accordingly, trim in small quantities as if you go too far finding replacements is a bummer.
as for the IAT sensor, I justput a very small hole in the rubber elbow and used some copper sealant, push the entire sensor fitting from the original accordian in it and make sure its a TIGHT fit, put some copper sealant on it and let it dry, your ready to go, may need to lengthen or adjust the length of the MAF wires but I don't think I did when all was said and done.. lemme know how it works out!
Chris
yeah thats the only way to fly.. runs MUCH smoother then as a draw through.. as for parts used, none really.. just replace the piece of pipe ATI sends you with the maf and trim the hoses accordingly, trim in small quantities as if you go too far finding replacements is a bummer.
as for the IAT sensor, I justput a very small hole in the rubber elbow and used some copper sealant, push the entire sensor fitting from the original accordian in it and make sure its a TIGHT fit, put some copper sealant on it and let it dry, your ready to go, may need to lengthen or adjust the length of the MAF wires but I don't think I did when all was said and done.. lemme know how it works out!
Chris
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Thanks for the replies. My ducting is much to large to attach to the MAF. I wonder if ATI still has any of the ducting from the earlier kits? The MAF must get a more accurate reading on the pressure side where it can read the actual air density going into the throttle body. If the earlier kits had the MAF on the pressure side I wonder why ATI changed to a draw through system ? It also seems that the blower must have to work harder to have to pull the air through the MAF. Have you had trouble ordering extra ducting from ATI ? Does anyone know were they get their ducting from ?
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no... its bigger then the maf, its like a 3.75" hose.. but it will shrink down with a clamp and hold fine (mine was bigger also!).. just gotta finess it while tightening the clamp so it seats right.. go for it.. trust me.. mine was the draw through and I went the other way for blow through! It will work just fine for you!
Chris
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Originally Posted by lcvette
no... its bigger then the maf, its like a 3.75" hose.. (mine was bigger also!)..
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Aaron, yes.. the ducting that fits the throttle body is not 3 or 2.5 or 2.75" it is much larger and is a little bit bigger then the 3.5" MAF housing ends.
The IC discharge is the ssame size as a twin 58mm throttle body lip.
Chris
The IC discharge is the ssame size as a twin 58mm throttle body lip.
Chris
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Hmmmm. The inside diameter of my ducting is 4". I guess I will just have to try to scrunch it down and see if it will seal. It will be awhile before I can try it though, as my transmission is out for a rebuild and I decided to drop the oil pan and timing cover to chase down a leak and try to remedy my drop in oil pressure in first and second gear under acceleration. ...... I found that my engine builder installed the water pump drive seal improperly, and that my oil pickup had come loose (the spot welds broke loose).
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yes it will fit and seal and even be nice and smooth when all is said and done on the inside! trust me on this.. I did mine this way!
Chris
PS.. spend some money and buy yourself all high quality T-Bolt Clamps and save yourself the headaches of worm gear clamps failing on you or stripping out all the time!
Chris
PS.. spend some money and buy yourself all high quality T-Bolt Clamps and save yourself the headaches of worm gear clamps failing on you or stripping out all the time!
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Originally Posted by lcvette
Aaron, yes.. the ducting that fits the throttle body is not 3 or 2.5 or 2.75" it is much larger and is a little bit bigger then the 3.5" MAF housing ends.
The IC discharge is the ssame size as a twin 58mm throttle body lip.
Chris
The IC discharge is the ssame size as a twin 58mm throttle body lip.
Chris
You are speaking of directly in front of the TB. That area is considerably larger than 3". I actually use 4.5" silicon tubing to mate to the TB (all of the TBs use the same size; 48MM, 52MM, Billet 58MM, and even the MB).
I was referring to the tubing as supplied by ATI, which I maintain the largest diameter in any of the kits for a C4 is 3"ID. Some of the C5/C6 kits have a small section of 3.5"ID tubing.
I think he should have no issue with sealing the MAF to a 4" rubber hose. And I will agree that the T-bolt clamps are the way to go (and Summit and Jeg's sell Turbonetics T-bolt clamps).
Aaron
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we are talking about different things then Aaron... the plumbing he is asking about is the ATI Supplied plumbing that goes from the IC outlet to the TB.. as you stated above it is larger.. we are not talking about anything pre IC which is smaller D plumbing. ATI supplies a flattened piece of rolled edge tubing which I removed and put the MAF in its place... it is quite possible that the older L98 stuff i smaller.. I don't know I haven't installed one of those kits before. However to answer your question, the blower discharger from ATI on my 95 kit is 3" or even a hair larger.
see pictures in this thread.. note the MAF placement...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1467057
so in regards to the original poster.. yes just remove the supplied hard flattened pipe and install the MAF here and clamp down the Tbolts to the MAF housing ends while holding it positioned correctly.. it will require a little bit of trimming and putting the IC in just the right spot so the hood closes and all fits together like cake.
Chris
see pictures in this thread.. note the MAF placement...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1467057
so in regards to the original poster.. yes just remove the supplied hard flattened pipe and install the MAF here and clamp down the Tbolts to the MAF housing ends while holding it positioned correctly.. it will require a little bit of trimming and putting the IC in just the right spot so the hood closes and all fits together like cake.
Chris
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Originally Posted by lcvette
However to answer your question, the blower discharger from ATI on my 95 kit is 3" or even a hair larger.
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Originally Posted by 95PCTBK
will 12psi hurt the mass air sensor?
Aaron