Mod gains
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Heel & Toe
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Mod gains
I have a 91 with flowmasters on it everything else is stock. I'm thinking of modding it along the lines of a Miniram, long tube headers, losing the cats, and maybe a mild cam. Is this going to make a major difference in performance? I don't care about 1/4 mile time or hp to much. I just want a throw you back in the seat street car. Thanks.
*edit* Oh yeah, I'm only looking to spend maybe 2k-3K.
*edit* Oh yeah, I'm only looking to spend maybe 2k-3K.
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Originally Posted by a_vette_53
Alright thanks. I was just wanting to double check before putting money into it, and then being disapointed with the result.
I personally perfer a torque combination rather than a high horsepower combo. That is a matter of personal opinion though.
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Heel & Toe
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I was just looking to make sure those parts would make a difference. I use this car as my DD so i'm not really looking to make it a ungodly fast car. My goal is to make it into a torquer throw you back in your seat ride.
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Originally Posted by a_vette_53
I was just looking to make sure those parts would make a difference. I use this car as my DD so i'm not really looking to make it a ungodly fast car. My goal is to make it into a torquer throw you back in your seat ride.
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Originally Posted by Pete K
Consider the possibility of a Superram manifold or a modified tpi system as well. The mini ram is not known as the torque monster manifold. High rpm's is where it shines.
the mini ram makes it more like the LT1, gotta love those high revs.
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the mini ram will significanly change your flow profile on the intake side if you are chooseing a cam and you have no intention of doing anything exotic like forced air or stroking the have contact compcams for a custom cam setup the cost will be worth it dont take the word of some half a$$ poster on a forum or web site that this specific cam will work best with your setup. stock cams are not bad but they where designed for efficancy with the head and intake not power.
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You should read my website, click my name. These decisions with heads/cam need to be carefully considered, as then you will have to modify other things to go with this intake change, like your rear gearing. Basically your mods will then follow what LT1 guys do to their cars.
Yes the heads NEED to be ported to optimize this combination, actually even then they still would be on the small side for what the miniram can do in potential. Camshaft selection will range from something as small as the ZZ9 (also from TPiS) to hotcam/cc305 for something that is potent but still very driveable.
Yes the heads NEED to be ported to optimize this combination, actually even then they still would be on the small side for what the miniram can do in potential. Camshaft selection will range from something as small as the ZZ9 (also from TPiS) to hotcam/cc305 for something that is potent but still very driveable.
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Originally Posted by a_vette_53
*edit* Oh yeah, I'm only looking to spend maybe 2k-3K.
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I wouldn't let the loss of low end torque deter you. LT1's make more than enough low end power to have fun with, and the upper end is great. Low end torque kinda seems to be something the L98 guys bragg about, and in my opinion they make too much out of it.
Maybe find an LT1 powered car at a dealership and go for a test drive. A Camaro, Firebird, or C4; it shouldn't matter. Any of those would give you an idea of the power band you'll have with the mini-ram. With the right heads and cam combo, ~350+ RWHP isn't out of the question. I am a few paychecks away from pulling the trigger on this combo:
These heads: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SBC-C...mZ260045336951
A CC 306 cam
A converted LT1 intake, which is almost identical to the mini-ram you are considering.
A tune from www.pcmforless.com
That should put me in the 360 RWHP range, give or take.
Good luck and let us know what you decide to do!
Maybe find an LT1 powered car at a dealership and go for a test drive. A Camaro, Firebird, or C4; it shouldn't matter. Any of those would give you an idea of the power band you'll have with the mini-ram. With the right heads and cam combo, ~350+ RWHP isn't out of the question. I am a few paychecks away from pulling the trigger on this combo:
These heads: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SBC-C...mZ260045336951
A CC 306 cam
A converted LT1 intake, which is almost identical to the mini-ram you are considering.
A tune from www.pcmforless.com
That should put me in the 360 RWHP range, give or take.
Good luck and let us know what you decide to do!
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i partly agree with neat, if your budget is 2 to 3k, invest in a good set of heads not from ebay, and use a converted lt1 intake. for 1k you have a lot of choices for good name brand heads like edelbrock or trickflow, a converted lt1 intake with fuel rails is 400 bucks, compare that to the 1200 you are going to spend on a miniram.
i would have gone this route myself, but i already had the miniram. If i could do it again, i would have spent 2k on a set a bad ***, afr's, and 400 on a converterd lt1 intake. good luck.
i would have gone this route myself, but i already had the miniram. If i could do it again, i would have spent 2k on a set a bad ***, afr's, and 400 on a converterd lt1 intake. good luck.
Last edited by 86VX1; Oct 26, 2006 at 01:34 PM.