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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 02:34 AM
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Ok on my 85 vette, when O start it up on a cold day, i see the fumes coming out the two outter pipes, the inner ones have nothing coming out.

The outter pipes are used looking and the inners are new looking, still black.

If i put my hand over the outter, it does not force air out the inner.

keep in mind im talking dual exhaust, two tips on each side.

Now im pretty sure this is a stock exhuast, it doesnt really matter b.c im going to eliminate the mufflers, but whats the deal.

bad mufflers, or are stock that restricting

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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 07:16 AM
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That's the way GM designed them. You can get O.E.M. type dual outlet mufflers at www.madvet.com for $160 a pair. GM calls them "Sport" mufflers. I have them on my 1989 Z51. They are supposed to be worth 5 additional HP. On most L98's only 1 outlet works.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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That along with the three cats is what restricts the L-98s horsepower so bad. I gutted two main cats, removed third giant cat, converrted to true dual and welded on some tips. Sounds better and seat of the pants seems higher IMO.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Federal noise requirements are probably what made them do that, and yes it is stock, though it did not continue for all cars (depended on optioning in later years).

read my website, the whole exhaust system is restrictive
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So i dont think ANY THING COMES OUT ?

is that the way it should be, a fake pipe ?
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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Yes, its a dummy outlet. Its welded shut from the inside.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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with Vader. Only one of the two works, the other is fake. Go to after market mufflers with two that actually work.

You may want to look at your cat and see if it should be replaced.
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Catco is a good brand for high-flow catalytic converters.
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I cant belive that Chevy was putting fake exhaust pipes on their cars.. Thats crazy !!
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Originally Posted by corvettedan22
I cant belive that Chevy was putting fake exhaust pipes on their cars.. Thats crazy !!
They've been putting "fake" dual exhaust for several years...

I had an old 75 Camaro...single exhaust back to tranverse mounted muffler with two outlets...two tailpipes that were about 2 feet long...but not real duals...Same with Monte Carlo SS, Buick Grand National, Olds Cutlass 442's of the 80's...Two tailpipes, and sometimes two mufflers as well, but not true dual exhaust by any means.

Even our C4's don't have "real" dual exhaust from the factory, even though they have two mufflers.
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Here's a view inside the '91 L98 muffler ...

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Very few stock cars have true dual exhaust.

But are you glad you have a fake pipe and "not true duals" than if you just had a single pipe sticking out one side? That would look pretty ghey now wouldn't it? I'll take my "fake" exhaust any day over a single exhaust tip sticking out of one side only

oh yeah, gutted cats and borlas here
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A LONG 1/2" drill bit will fix it.
Drill a couple of holes in there and it will start 'working'.
You 'may' like the sound better also.
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Originally Posted by Eike
Here's a view inside the '91 L98 muffler ...

EIKE, isn't yours a little loud with mufflers like that?
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Originally Posted by VetNutJim
EIKE, isn't yours a little loud with mufflers like that?

Good point, he better weld them back together
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Yep, that is the way GM made those mufflers. Even the Dynomax mufflers I have on my 86 are that way.

You can eliminate the two precats and install a high flow main cat and the muffler eliminators. It make for a loud ride though.
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