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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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looking to up grade brakes on my 86 coupe.anyone know of kits rotors and calapers that fit my car. thank guys
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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You may wish to post in Tech / Performance vs FI / N2O. You will probably get more guided help on this type question in that forum.
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You may wish to post in Tech / Performance vs FI / N2O. You will probably get more guided help on this type question in that forum.
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thanks buddy i will give it a try
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looking to up grade brakes on my 86 coupe.anyone know of kits rotors and calapers that fit my car. thank guys
Using a simple bracket the size of a cassette tape, You can use C5 front brake rotors and calipers. I just install a set on my 87. Someone may have the specs or sell them. I made mine from a piece of plate steel. They work perfectly.
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The problem with most big brake kits is that you can not use the stock 16" rims.

I did some research and bought rotors from a BMW E39 540i (2003-).
The BMW rotors are 324mm x 30mm, almost exactly the same as the Corvette C5 rotors, 325mm x 32mm.

The differance compared to the C5 rotors is that they have much more 'backspace'. The C5 rotors are almost flat.

The extra backspace makes room for Wilwood Forged Superlite 4-piston calipers in the stock 16"x9.5" rims without any spacers.

My stock rotor compared to the BMW rotor.



On the Corvette:










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As you see this requires som modification of the rotor to clear the mounting bolts for the caliper pracket. ( simple to do in a lahthe )

It also requires a custom bracket to mount the caliper.
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Here you go. We are running a special (GP) on our C4 to C5 brake adapter kits this week. Add C5 brakes to your C4 and get rid of that mushy feeling every time you step on the brakes at the track. Our kits include the adapter, bolts, instructions, and a complete easy to read parts list.

85-87MY kits on sale with free shipping for $115.00 this week!
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1626372

88-96MY kits with free shipping are available for $125.00
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1611445
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JoBy,

Were the BMW rotors a direct bolt on and do you have the model# of the Wilwood calipers ?




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The problem with most big brake kits is that you can not use the stock 16" rims.

I did some research and bought rotors from a BMW E39 540i (2003-).
The BMW rotors are 324mm x 30mm, almost exactly the same as the Corvette C5 rotors, 325mm x 32mm.

The differance compared to the C5 rotors is that they have much more 'backspace'. The C5 rotors are almost flat.

The extra backspace makes room for Wilwood Forged Superlite 4-piston calipers in the stock 16"x9.5" rims without any spacers.

As you see this requires som modification of the rotor to clear the mounting bolts for the caliper pracket. ( simple to do in a lahthe )

It also requires a custom bracket to mount the caliper.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Were the BMW rotors a direct bolt on and do you have the model# of the Wilwood calipers ?
It is Wilwood Forged Superlite for 1.25" wide rotors.
http://www.wilwood.com/Products/001-...-FSL/index.asp

They are available with different piston sizes.

The bolt pattern and 'backspace' of the rotors are perfect.

The center hole is a bit too big so you must make an adapter ring in a lathe to center the rotor on the hub.

You also have to modify the rotor in a lathe. Remove the inner rotor near the center to clear the caliper bolts on the knuckle.

The outer diameter on the Corvette hub was slightley too big and the rotor got a bit narrower near the hub mounting surface, so I removed some material from the rotor there too.

You can see both modifications on this picture:

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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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I not quite sure I understand what your referring to in the picture. I see some areas that appear modified but do you have a stock unmodified picture of a rotor for comparison?
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I removed the red areas.

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Excellent drawing and makes it real clear. Was wondering how much of the inner area of the disc surface you removed. Im am guessing .25"
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Nice tip. Saves having to buy 2 piece rotors with custom hats.

I posted a link over in the road racing/Autocross section. Hope you don't mind
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1638433

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This is a mock up caliper bracket I made.









The real bracket will be made from thicker aluminum.
As you see in the last picture the caliper has to be moved out slightly.

For extra support I will use distances and bolt the bracket to the original caliper mountings too.
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That's amazing!

I do enjoy the look of the 16 inch rims, it's crazy that someone found a way to stuff super thick breaks into that space. Joby, you're pretty innovative with what you can do in your time. Please keep us updated. This would be something I would like to try.


And the size of the BMW rotor next to the C4's rotor. That thing is a dinner plate and a half. I wonder how much that would reduce your stopping distance.

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