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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 02:06 AM
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Okay, I am having a geometry problem here. I look at how the rear leaf spring is located in the rear, and how the lowering/raising spring bolts are put in.But how does the spring actually hold the car up? It is bolted to the center, and the spring angles down to the ground. The spring bolt goes through it with a pad towards the ground, and one on top of the spindle.
It seems all it does is push the center up. I am at a loss, like its staring me in the eyes and I cant see the obvious.
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It pushes up in the center (to the body) and down on the ends (to the wheels). The first time I saw it I was like "What the hell?". But it's a pretty easy setup. A floor jack with a pad to protect the spring can be used to take pressure off the wheel end to disconnect it.

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Yeah Steve its bolted hard to the rear cover of the diff, which cant move in the car. The ends of the spring are pulling down on the rear knuckles which holds the car up. Pulling the knuckles down will raise the car up

As apposed to the front end, the spring is held under the engine cradle and pushes down against the lower control arms.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Thanks, It just seems upside down. Thats why arent and Engineer!!
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Think of it this way:

The spring pushes the wheels away from the chassis.

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Haven't you ever pulled yourself up by the boot straps? It's the same principle.
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Oddly enough, the same basic spring configuration was the norm on most autos until after WWII. The only real difference was that the cars had live axles instead of independent control of each wheel. Although it works pretty well on Corvettes, on which it's used since '63 and at least through the C4 era (not sure after that), I still think it's rather archaic and can certainly be improved upon.
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Originally Posted by Corvette Kid
Oddly enough, the same basic spring configuration was the norm on most autos until after WWII. The only real difference was that the cars had live axles instead of independent control of each wheel. Although it works pretty well on Corvettes, on which it's used since '63 and at least through the C4 era (not sure after that), I still think it's rather archaic and can certainly be improved upon.
, but you cant argue with results...
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Originally Posted by steve40th
........ like its staring me in the eyes and I cant see the obvious.

Your killing me.....
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Originally Posted by Corvette Kid
Oddly enough, the same basic spring configuration was the norm on most autos until after WWII.
And on most horse-drawn carriages before that...


Originally Posted by Corvette Kid
The only real difference was that the cars had live axles instead of independent control of each wheel. Although it works pretty well on Corvettes, on which it's used since '63 and at least through the C4 era (not sure after that), I still think it's rather archaic and can certainly be improved upon.
I'm curious as to why you feel this way. The transverse leaf setup has many clear advantages, and works extremely well. Obviously, a solid axle with dual parallel leaf springs leaves a bit to be desired, but with fully-independent suspension, what don't you like about it?

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That spring is where the ET is at for your 60' times.
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