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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:27 AM
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Simple question today,

What should the rev limit be on an 89 Vette, with L98 and ZF??

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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:35 AM
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Though there is no electronic rev limiter, the stock intake will limit the effective revs to low 5k range. Beyond that the stock valve train will likely limit you to below 6k RPM (only around 80lbs on the seat) and the bottom end will limit you to maybe low to mid 6k RPMs.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:47 AM
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I agree.

With the stock intake the engine will turn more than 5500, but the
party is over at 4400 and acceleration falls off noticably. My vote is
that the only reason to wind higher than 5000 is to avoid a gear
change.

With a stroke of 3.48, piston speed at 6000 is just under 3500 FPM.
This getting to the boundary of what the OEM bottom end components
are able to tolerate.

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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:57 AM
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5,600rpm on an 86...and I believe 86 and 88's have the same 165 ecm's...? Though the info in the chips would vary some...
Quote from 86 owner's manual.."When engine speed exceeds 5600rpm, the fuel injectors cease to function."
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Originally Posted by CorvAdel
5,600rpm on an 86...and I believe 86 and 88's have the same 165 ecm's...? Though the info in the chips would vary some...
Quote from 86 owner's manual.."When engine speed exceeds 5600rpm, the fuel injectors cease to function."
We might go to the track on Saturday if the weather is above 50.... doubtful. Just wanted to know. I've revved it out to around 5000-5100everything seems ok.... I would never even let it go any higher, but I figured I would ask just in case.

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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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The ecm's fuel cut rev limit is set to 10,031 rpm for L98s. Fuel resume is set to 9544 rpm.

With these settings the rev limit function has been effectively disabled from the factory.

For shift points: I would suggest as a starting point something like 4800 rpm 1-2, 4600 rpm 2-3 and 4400 rpm 3-4.

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Originally Posted by Danspeed1
I've revved it out to around 5000-5100. Everything seems ok....
That self-imposed RPM peak will make for good engine longevity.
Shift earlier to go faster.

If you keep an eye out for signs of leaking head gaskets, use a
50:50ish mixture of glycol & distilled water as the coolant
and change it every two years, then you should receive hundreds
of thousands of miles of enjoyment from the engine.

The Lisle 75500 COMBUSTION LEAK DETECTOR (less than $30) and/or
regular oil analysis reports will provide early warning of impending
HG failure. If you see white exhaust or the dreaded chocolate
milkshake - it is probably too late for the bottom end.

See flannel_man's thread (un)Funny oil

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If you go by the ECM the stock fuel cutoff is something like 10k.
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The honest reason I asked was because I launched the car yesterday just to get an idea of what it would do on the track (I know its different but I haven't really hammered this car at all yet) and although i like the digital dash its hard to tell what RPM the cars at... so I went by ear, and needless to say when I looked down the rpm was up around 5000- maybe 5300 if I happened to look down during my shift. In any event, I couldn't tell if it went into the red zone, but it was over the hump on the RPM gauge. Last thing I want to do is blow then engine on this thing, it runs great and gets 27.5MPG (better then a rice box might i add). I know the bottom can take about 7K if I had an accident so I am not too worried. My girlfriend is the primary driver and she baby's it all week. Meanwhile the previous owner raced it (we found slips for raceway park under the seat) so I really don't think any harm was caused during my 1 time overrev.... I think for the street 4K will do, and for the track I may let her go to 4500.

Thanks guys,

P.S. can I have it tuned with a Rev Limit like 5500?

Oh, also, changed the Synthetic oil at just around 3500 Miles, and it was down 1/4 of a quart... thats about what you guys are seeing right?

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Originally Posted by Danspeed1
P.S. can I have it tuned with a Rev Limit like 5500?
Sure, to anything you want. Just keep in mind that the L98 cutoff is FUEL and not spark. Don't let the engine bounce off of it a long time.

Oh, also, changed the Synthetic oil at just around 3500 Miles, and it was down 1/4 of a quart... thats about what you guys are seeing right?
Thats not bad at all. Hell the LS6 guys would be jealous!
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cool,

thanks guys

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the bottom end will limit you to maybe low to mid 6k RPMs.
I'd like to point out a little fact about that 'bottom end' limiter.
It's sort of a 'one shot' deal. IOW, it only does it's thing 'once'.
THen you buy a new engine.
But it can be considered to be a VERY good and reliable limiter.

Soooooo.....
I wouldn't rely on it very much if I were.... any of you.
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Originally Posted by CorvAdel
5,600rpm on an 86...and I believe 86 and 88's have the same 165 ecm's...? Though the info in the chips would vary some...
Quote from 86 owner's manual.."When engine speed exceeds 5600rpm, the fuel injectors cease to function."


Originally Posted by tequilaboy
The ecm's fuel cut rev limit is set to 10,031 rpm for L98s. Fuel resume is set to 9544 rpm.

With these settings the rev limit function has been effectively disabled from the factory.

For shift points: I would suggest as a starting point something like 4800 rpm 1-2, 4600 rpm 2-3 and 4400 rpm 3-4.

the owners manual does state there is a fuel cut at 5600 rpm,
but i have revved my stock chipped 86 to 6400 rpm
many times, (heads/cam/miniram equipped)
so tequilaboy is correct... no practical fuel cut limit is set.
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Originally Posted by BigLee
but i have revved my stock chipped 86 to 6400 rpm
Ouch!

Hows it holding up ??? its a stock bottom end right??

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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Danspeed1
Ouch!

Hows it holding up ??? its a stock bottom end right??

DG
it was... for a while.... with 100,000 miles, a rod bearing finally gave up. drove it home from the track with a rod knocking...
rebuilt the shortblock with a reground original crank, and reconditioned orig. rods, fitted with KB 120 pistons.

if i had pulled the pan, and replaced just the rod beaings before i started spinning it so hard, it would probably have been ok for a long time...
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Originally Posted by BigLee
the owners manual does state there is a fuel cut at 5600 rpm,
but i have revved my stock chipped 86 to 6400 rpm
many times, (heads/cam/miniram equipped)
so tequilaboy is correct... no practical fuel cut limit is set.

If the factory manual says that, its dead wrong. It'll take bursts to 6400 just fine. I wouldn't hold it there for circle track racing thoug.
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