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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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I did a swap from 2.59 to 3.75, I have the correct gears to correct it
blue 45 tooth driven and the grey drive gear. my question is can I just replace the driven gear for now? I will have the trans out in a few months and I can replace the drive gear then. is the 45 tooth driven gear compatible with the stock drive gear? I know the speedo still wont be correct but it will be closer than it is now. thanks
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gator79
I did a swap from 2.59 to 3.75, I have the correct gears to correct it
blue 45 tooth driven and the grey drive gear. my question is can I just replace the driven gear for now? I will have the trans out in a few months and I can replace the drive gear then. is the 45 tooth driven gear compatible with the stock drive gear? I know the speedo still wont be correct but it will be closer than it is now. thanks
I dunno but the grey drive gear is alot easier to change than you might think. I was not looking forward to changing it but once you got the car in the air to get to the driven gear you're only a c-beam and driveshaft away from pulling the four bolts 15mm in the tailshaft and changing the gear. It took less than an hour to change both.
The drive gear is located onto the output shaft with a metal spring clip.
Mine was stuck so I whacked it with a chisel and a hammer and broke it in half. There are two holes in the tailshaft and the springclip has a nipple that goes into the rear hole. The hole closest to the rear bumper of the car. The clip is located on the shaft and the gear goes on over the shaft and is kept in place by the clip. Hope this helps.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gator79
I did a swap from 2.59 to 3.75, I have the correct gears to correct it
blue 45 tooth driven and the grey drive gear. my question is can I just replace the driven gear for now? I will have the trans out in a few months and I can replace the drive gear then. is the 45 tooth driven gear compatible with the stock drive gear? I know the speedo still wont be correct but it will be closer than it is now. thanks
the gears I got were green and grey.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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JD, The green gear with 3.75s is for a 27" tire. I bet your speedo is reading too high by about 5%.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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JD is referring to the 45 tooth gear.
It is a pale green, unlike the 43 tooth dark green gear.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete K
JD is referring to the 45 tooth gear.
It is a pale green, unlike the 43 tooth dark green gear.
ok now I am confused because I have a light blue 45 tooth gear GM part number 9775187

JD the tail shaft would be easy if my bolts to my left catalytic convertor were not stripped out by the person who took it out last you know I will be changing the convertor, I will fix all of it then.
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You have the correct gear.
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You have the correct gear.
thanks, back to the original question. is there a problem running it with the stock drive gear?
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No problem other than the ~10% error. Just stick the VSS in upside down and you should be fine. If not, report back to us.

Be sure to snap the metal clip off and snap it back on the other side of the VSS.
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Originally Posted by gator79
thanks, back to the original question. is there a problem running it with the stock drive gear?
No problem. The plastic gears do not seem to "bed in" to each other. It should be fine to run it.
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No problem other than the ~10% error. Just stick the VSS in upside down and you should be fine. If not, report back to us.
Upside down? Whats that do?

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Somebody please explain this, I've seen it posted alot but when I did my speedo gears it fell together. The VSS went right back in no rotation
necessary. I had 2.59's and went to 3.75's I changed the drive gear and the driven gear. I've also seen it posted you would need a new VSS
several times. What gives ? How come some do and some don't. I would just like to understand how it works.
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Originally Posted by JD'S WHITE 93
Somebody please explain this, I've seen it posted alot but when I did my speedo gears it fell together. The VSS went right back in no rotation
necessary. I had 2.59's and went to 3.75's I changed the drive gear and the driven gear. I've also seen it posted you would need a new VSS
several times. What gives ? How come some do and some don't. I would just like to understand how it works.
I went to 3.54's, but same thing.I ordered the drive/driven gears, installed them and everything was fine. My car is an '87 with the magnetic vss.

Did the later vettes have the optical VSS? I know some fbody's got optical in '90.

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Originally Posted by anesthes
Upside down? Whats that do?

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The shaft for the driven gear isn't concentric with (in the center of) the O.D. of the VSS. The the shaft in the two VSSs have opposite offsets to allow for different tooth counts and outside diameters of driven gears. Until it was discovered that rotating the VSS 180* changed the offset the proper amount, a change in the VSS was required, as per the parts book. Driven gears with 35 to 39 teeth take one VSS and driven gears with 40 to 45 teeth take the other.
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Originally Posted by C4Techie
The shaft for the driven gear isn't concentric with (in the center of) the O.D. of the VSS. The the shaft in the two VSSs have opposite offsets to allow for different tooth counts and outside diameters of driven gears. Until it was discovered that rotating the VSS 180* changed the offset the proper amount, a change in the VSS was required, as per the parts book. Driven gears with 35 to 39 teeth take one VSS and driven gears with 40 to 45 teeth take the other.
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If your swap from small gear to large gear or vise versa seems to work without rotating the VSS, you probably have too tight or too loose gear mesh, which will tear up the speedo gears.


Also, the 15T drive gear is slightly smaller than the 17T, so you might be able to get away with a little bigger than 40T driven without rotating the VSS.
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I just took my vss out and the gear I bought does not look right. mine is a gear without a long plastic tail, the new one is blue and has a long tail. does the metal piece come out of the vss?
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my new gear is style H and the housing is style J on this page
http://www.tciauto.com/Products/Comp...eter_gears.asp
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That's for a cable driven speedo.

Go here:

http://www.corvetteforum.net/c4/vett...Gearshtm.shtml
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