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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 05:35 AM
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My car went into limp home mode once...ran real bad with no power...I barely made it home and into the garage...it would not start after that and I had to have it towed from my garage..turned out to be an ECM gone bad...
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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My car went into limp home mode once...ran real bad with no power...I barely made it home and into the garage...it would not start after that and I had to have it towed from my garage..turned out to be an ECM gone bad...
Posts like this are only furthering my belief that "limp home mode" is just a phrase people randomly throw out whenever their car is running poorly. If your ECM is bad then obviously it can't intervene to enter a preprogrammed "limp home mode."


Originally Posted by Cold_B
I think that the MAF is the exception to the rule in this case. Most other sensors the car wouldn't be able to approcimate.

Didn't they at one point just have a MAF sensor or a MAP sensor depending on how the car was setup for that year, and only late in the C4 run have both MAF and MAP sensor installed? That seems to be what I remembered, but since I have a 96 I didn't pay much attention.
Yeah, my bad, I was only referring to what a '96 does. Earlier C4's do not behave like this at all.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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94 to 96 use both systems, one for backup only.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheelman
No, its when the computer uses a default table in the ecm to control timing / fuel / spark to keep the car running when certain sensors the car normally uses to control and monitor these things listed above have failed or go bad.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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?? i thought Limp home mode was another word for Open Loop...

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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel DK
?? i thought Limp home mode was another word for Open Loop...

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Nope. Also your in open loop at cold start up every time for a short while.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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If I recall correctly, TPIS' Insider Hints booklet gives a definition of ALL the different modes the system has. If it's not in the TPIS booklet, it's in the FSM for the 86 Vette.

I believe there are about five of them and Limp Home Mode is one of them.

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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JAKE
If I recall correctly, TPIS' Insider Hints booklet gives a definition of ALL the different modes the system has. If it's not in the TPIS booklet, it's in the FSM for the 86 Vette.

I believe there are about five of them and Limp Home Mode is one of them.

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Open loop mode (ECM uses throttle position, rpm, and coolant temp to determine fuel injector pulse width)

Closed loop mode (all of the above happens, but excess enleanment/enrichment is corrected with the O2 sensor on normal throttle conditions, except WOT)

PE/open loop mode (ECM ignores O2 sensor output in WOT from the temporary rich condition)

Deceleration mode (ECM cuts fuel past 43 mph when it senses no throttle, coasting)

Limp home mode (ECM runs car on default lookup tables when a certain sensor isn't functioning properly, E.G. faulty MAF)
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Deceleration mode (ECM cuts fuel past 43 mph when it senses no throttle, coasting)

I've wondered about that one for a while. The car coasts much better below 43 MPH. That makes sense now, I had been wondering if the trans. was doing that.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Aardwolf
Deceleration mode (ECM cuts fuel past 43 mph when it senses no throttle, coasting)

I've wondered about that one for a while. The car coasts much better below 43 MPH. That makes sense now, I had been wondering if the trans. was doing that.
Basically its when the momentum of the car is used to "spin" the engine with no fuel, with the torque converter clutch locked (automatic trans). Feels like the car suddenly "started" dragging something the moment you let off the gas, above 43 mph, which, in turn its just spinning the motor with the car's momentum. You can also tell the fuel is cut off when the instant MPG guage reads 99.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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It was strange to me at first since other cars I have had did not do that. It was easy to coast a long ways to a stop sign. With the 'vette the speed drops like a rock. I always wondered why, thanks.
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