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How many people have replaced (or had replaced by their mechanic) the ECM in any car?
My neighbor is an ASE mechanic and he says he has only had to replace 3 or 4 in the last 10 years.
Replace with fix?
Replace without fix?
when i first bought my car (87 vert) it ran great.. 2 weeks later it started idling at 1200 rpm all the time..after replacing the maf and various sensors with no success the mechanic pulled the ecm box down (suspecting a faulty aftermarket prom). after removing the hypertech prom and restarting the car it still ran with a high idle.
for some reason (known only to the mechanic) he tapped the ecm box lightly with a screwdriver handle and dammed if the idle didnt drop to 700 rpm.
after a minute or 2 of jiggling the wires going into the ecm we realized that the severe vibrations and rough ride that are a part of the cars charm are also pretty hard on all those soldered connections inside the ecm!
ecm replaced ...about 100$ from napa i believe ..problem solved!
What does this last part mean? It is my experience that the ECMs in these cars are pretty durable. Although it is one model before a Commodore 64, the computer in my car has survived for 24 years. More then half the computer changes I am aware of didn't fix the problem. I'd have to be very convinced before I spent the money. It would be great if someone had one you could use to test to see if that really is the problem.
Like you said; Many get replaced without fixing the problem. So I waned to know how many replacement ECM's actually fixed the problem. Versus how many replacements were not needed. How many got replaced for NOTHING.
I got my Vette in the winter of 1999, in the summer of 2000 it started acting up in hot weather only. After chasing everything down I could a mechanic friend suggested I change the ECM because it could be sensitive to heat. Since I had not yet heard of this great forum and had done everything else I possibly could I went ahead and changed the ECM. It's now 6 years later and absolutely no ECM related problems have shown up.
If I could get a working 93 ECM that would be the best way to go. I do not know of anyone in the Baltimore Maryland area that I could get one from. 92 and 93 are the only 2 years that would work in my car.
Have you posted your problem to see if someone here could help? I would never have replaced my ECM if I hadn't already exhausted all other means of repair.
If I could get a working 93 ECM that would be the best way to go. I do not know of anyone in the Baltimore Maryland area that I could get one from. 92 and 93 are the only 2 years that would work in my car.
What about NAPA? Replaced my ECM (87) 2 yrs ago, and no problems since...did get the replacement ECM from NAPA $97 after return of old one.
I have a price of 135.00 + 35.00 (?) from GMPartsdirect. I would like to make sure that is the problem before I open my wallet. YES i am CHEAP, not just frugal, CHEAP.
My '89 is on the 4th or 5th - 3 were under warranty back in '89 - '91. I think Killebrew mentions they were pretty lame in his Digital Dash Manual. In those years, it wouldn't react to the a/c request signal so it would surge and/or stall with the a/c on. Tech let me watch his scanner one day so I could see what was going on. More recently - about a year or so ago, it started toggling the ECT signal between 230 and 250 which meant a hard start, no fast idle and poor driveability when cold. Several others had the same problem at about the same time. Planned obsolescence?
I know the one in my 93 has been replaced since it is a reman but I have no information regarding why or if it solved the problem, seems to work fine now. Most of those I saw replaced in my 30+ years in Chrysler product dealerships were guesses by techs too lazy to do the real diagnostic work and expect that is true of other makes. Most of the actual failures I can verify were not "partial", the car would not run.
Had to replace the ECM in my '85 (at about 230K miles!) just a couple of months ago. It glitched momentarily a couple of times, out of the blue, on the highway for a couple of days then one warm start it simply would not idle - SES light on and no closed loop. It Did make it home (40 miles), and actually would even drop into closed loop after a while on the road, then drop back out seemingly at random. Once home and on the scanner it had half a dozen fault codes, all over the board. Messed around with the harness connections, changed PROM's, verified power and grounds at the harness etc - no help. Clear the codes and immediate reset on all of them on startup. A Reman ECM was about $90 from NAPA with the core - cured the problem, whatever it actually was. The one I took Out was labelled as a GM remanufactured unit...God only knows when or why it had previously been changed.
for some reason (known only to the mechanic) he tapped the ecm box lightly with a screwdriver handle and dammed if the idle didnt drop to 700 rpm
Believe it or not, tapping the ECM is part of the troubleshooting in the factory service manual I worked parts at a (non-GM) dealer; most ECMs are replace un-necessarily.
I replaced my ECM with a used unit from a 92, got it from E-Bay. Everything works fine now. The chip in the 92's ECM worked OK but would not turn on my A/C compressor so I installed my old chip.