Muffler Eliminators....installed!!
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From: Sugar Land, TX (suburban Houston area) U.S.A.
St. Jude Donor '09, '13
Muffler Eliminators....installed!!
Hi all,
Wanted to share the story of the muffler eliminator install. Got the set from CC...called around to a few muffler shops (I'll fix what is broke but I'm no welder) & decided on the Midas about 1 mile from the house. I also ordered the X-pipe from Imco another Vette owner used on here.
Anyone, the price for install of all a bit high but all the shops around here similar price so I went w/ the closest.
Muffler eliminators welded on...easy & look great.
They cut out the resonator & decided the X-pipe wasn't going to fit. Their price to make an Xpipe too much & I said just cut me an Hpipe for balance tube & they claimed pipes too close together to do it right. I quickly released these weren't the "swiftest" exhaust guys so I didn't want them trying anyting further. Hey...what you gonna do? I was at point of no return here.
At this point (3 guys on this project mind you) I said just weld in the straight pipes. The time it took them to weld them on I could have learned to weld myself...at least the price already set...if I was paying by the hour I would have had 2.5 hours of labor.
Anyway, sounds awesome...but I now go back to the question of "What is the real advantage (power & sound) to the X pipe?" Think it's worth having another shop look at installing an X or is the gain minimal enough not to worry about it for a while?
Just wanted some opinions on the lack of X/H at this point.
Once again, sound is awesome!!!!!!!!
Let me know what you think. Thanks.
JKK
Wanted to share the story of the muffler eliminator install. Got the set from CC...called around to a few muffler shops (I'll fix what is broke but I'm no welder) & decided on the Midas about 1 mile from the house. I also ordered the X-pipe from Imco another Vette owner used on here.
Anyone, the price for install of all a bit high but all the shops around here similar price so I went w/ the closest.
Muffler eliminators welded on...easy & look great.
They cut out the resonator & decided the X-pipe wasn't going to fit. Their price to make an Xpipe too much & I said just cut me an Hpipe for balance tube & they claimed pipes too close together to do it right. I quickly released these weren't the "swiftest" exhaust guys so I didn't want them trying anyting further. Hey...what you gonna do? I was at point of no return here.
At this point (3 guys on this project mind you) I said just weld in the straight pipes. The time it took them to weld them on I could have learned to weld myself...at least the price already set...if I was paying by the hour I would have had 2.5 hours of labor.
Anyway, sounds awesome...but I now go back to the question of "What is the real advantage (power & sound) to the X pipe?" Think it's worth having another shop look at installing an X or is the gain minimal enough not to worry about it for a while?
Just wanted some opinions on the lack of X/H at this point.
Once again, sound is awesome!!!!!!!!
Let me know what you think. Thanks.
JKK
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From: San Luis Obispo California
I was always told the H-pipe is a really good idea. It helps to equalize back pressure across both sides of the motor. I've never really heard that two pipes were too close together.
To properly find the locations of where the cross for the H-pipe goes, take a grease pencil (You girlfriend/wife's eyeliner usually works, put shh, don't tell her I told you), Draw a line down each pipe from the manifold down to about the cats, then idle the car so that the pencil starts to run, and let it get hot. The cross pipe in the H pipe connects the two places where the pencil stops running. It probably won't be even on bot sides, and it will probably be pretty ugly, but it works.
P.S. Good welders are hard to come by, if you find somebody good, pay him well and keep him happy.
To properly find the locations of where the cross for the H-pipe goes, take a grease pencil (You girlfriend/wife's eyeliner usually works, put shh, don't tell her I told you), Draw a line down each pipe from the manifold down to about the cats, then idle the car so that the pencil starts to run, and let it get hot. The cross pipe in the H pipe connects the two places where the pencil stops running. It probably won't be even on bot sides, and it will probably be pretty ugly, but it works.
P.S. Good welders are hard to come by, if you find somebody good, pay him well and keep him happy.
