crate motors?
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Racer
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From: Houston Texas
St. Jude Donor '08
crate motors?
Not really sure where the places to look for these are, or whats available.
What kind of motors are an easy swap?
Is it better to just take on a project and go LSX?
I want a car that is street legal, but will put up some pretty tough competition on a road course, lots of torque, not too woried about huge HP or top speed.
I have been trying to find some good threads on building a 383, because I am not opposed to keeping the stock motor and just getting as much power as possible out of it.
Im not going to care about cost right now, just thinking about a reasonable project that wont take a year to complete (assuming I were working on it every weekend), want to put together the best system possible "on paper" and then go from there.
What kind of motors are an easy swap?
Is it better to just take on a project and go LSX?
I want a car that is street legal, but will put up some pretty tough competition on a road course, lots of torque, not too woried about huge HP or top speed.
I have been trying to find some good threads on building a 383, because I am not opposed to keeping the stock motor and just getting as much power as possible out of it.
Im not going to care about cost right now, just thinking about a reasonable project that wont take a year to complete (assuming I were working on it every weekend), want to put together the best system possible "on paper" and then go from there.
Racer
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From: Lenexa Kansas
Try a few of these. It may show you a wide variety of possibilities.
www.golenengineservice.com
www.amerspeed.com
www.eportworks.com
www.advancedinduction.com
www.superchevyperformance.com
www.crateenginedepot.com
www.golenengineservice.com
www.amerspeed.com
www.eportworks.com
www.advancedinduction.com
www.superchevyperformance.com
www.crateenginedepot.com
Racer
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From: Lenexa Kansas
$5000.00 plus a few parts will buy you a new Goodwrench 383/425hp/449lb ft torque. With warranty. You will need to increase cooling, and beef up a few weak spots, but I bet you could tell the difference.
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I put a 383 Eagle Street and Strip rotating assy in a roller 350 block. There was really no grinding necessary but I ground a little off of 8 bolts to get about 1/16" clearance at the cylinder base. The kit has a cast steel crank and 5.7" rods. Cost for the kit was less than $900. I will have less than $4000 in the engine, intake through headers, by the time Im done. I plan to install the engine somewhere between Nov-Jan.
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Racer
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From: Houston Texas
St. Jude Donor '08
Hey, thanks, not so bad yourself lol
Im just tired of fixing things when I have been wanting to build something completly differant. I woke up late for work yesterday and went out side to find the starter was dead..... Love the car, but if Im gonna spend money on it Id rather it be in making it go faster, not just go.
Im just tired of fixing things when I have been wanting to build something completly differant. I woke up late for work yesterday and went out side to find the starter was dead..... Love the car, but if Im gonna spend money on it Id rather it be in making it go faster, not just go.
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Crate Motor
If you are interested in a crate motor, check out Scoggin Dickey Chevy in Lubbock TX at http://www.sdparts.com/
Phone number is: (800) 456-0211
They sell Edlebrock, Goodwrench, and GM Performance crate motors including the ZZ383 and the LT4 hot cam 385. They routinely ship all over the country.
I have bought several crate motors and Bowtie blocks from them and their service and pricing is excellent.
Phone number is: (800) 456-0211
They sell Edlebrock, Goodwrench, and GM Performance crate motors including the ZZ383 and the LT4 hot cam 385. They routinely ship all over the country.
I have bought several crate motors and Bowtie blocks from them and their service and pricing is excellent.
Racer
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From: Phoenix Arizona
Put a GM Crate engine in my '90 vert last December, horsepower and torque claims and higher than actual, as I believe their power claims come from a carburator set-up rather than the restrictive TPI. I will say I am very pleased with the engine and will continue to increase mods as needed, I use the car as a daily driver.
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
Le Mans Master
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From: Kempner Texas
My advice is to stick with a L98 style engine, (not the LTx or LSx style) get one with as many cubes as you can - certainly more than 400 cubic inches - choose heads, cam, intake and exhaust to support your power goals and have at it.
All the engines listed are a drop in and will bolt up without much of a problem. It then just boils down to wiring, sensors and tuning.
I put a 415 CID in my 86 and it was a piece of cake. Bolted right in, everything hooked up without a hitch.
Since your budget seems to be able to handle it, remember the 4 'C's when selecting parts to buy: Cubic Inches, Cylinder Heads, Camshaft and Compression. Those are the basis for power production.
Jake
All the engines listed are a drop in and will bolt up without much of a problem. It then just boils down to wiring, sensors and tuning.
I put a 415 CID in my 86 and it was a piece of cake. Bolted right in, everything hooked up without a hitch.
Since your budget seems to be able to handle it, remember the 4 'C's when selecting parts to buy: Cubic Inches, Cylinder Heads, Camshaft and Compression. Those are the basis for power production.
Jake
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Racer
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From: Houston Texas
St. Jude Donor '08
Put a GM Crate engine in my '90 vert last December, horsepower and torque claims and higher than actual, as I believe their power claims come from a carburator set-up rather than the restrictive TPI. I will say I am very pleased with the engine and will continue to increase mods as needed, I use the car as a daily driver.
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
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Racer
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: Houston Texas
St. Jude Donor '08
My advice is to stick with a L98 style engine, (not the LTx or LSx style) get one with as many cubes as you can - certainly more than 400 cubic inches - choose heads, cam, intake and exhaust to support your power goals and have at it.
All the engines listed are a drop in and will bolt up without much of a problem. It then just boils down to wiring, sensors and tuning.
I put a 415 CID in my 86 and it was a piece of cake. Bolted right in, everything hooked up without a hitch.
Since your budget seems to be able to handle it, remember the 4 'C's when selecting parts to buy: Cubic Inches, Cylinder Heads, Camshaft and Compression. Those are the basis for power production.
Jake
All the engines listed are a drop in and will bolt up without much of a problem. It then just boils down to wiring, sensors and tuning.
I put a 415 CID in my 86 and it was a piece of cake. Bolted right in, everything hooked up without a hitch.
Since your budget seems to be able to handle it, remember the 4 'C's when selecting parts to buy: Cubic Inches, Cylinder Heads, Camshaft and Compression. Those are the basis for power production.
Jake
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Not really sure where the places to look for these are, or whats available.
What kind of motors are an easy swap?
Is it better to just take on a project and go LSX?
I want a car that is street legal, but will put up some pretty tough competition on a road course, lots of torque, not too woried about huge HP or top speed.
I have been trying to find some good threads on building a 383, because I am not opposed to keeping the stock motor and just getting as much power as possible out of it.
Im not going to care about cost right now, just thinking about a reasonable project that wont take a year to complete (assuming I were working on it every weekend), want to put together the best system possible "on paper" and then go from there.
What kind of motors are an easy swap?
Is it better to just take on a project and go LSX?
I want a car that is street legal, but will put up some pretty tough competition on a road course, lots of torque, not too woried about huge HP or top speed.
I have been trying to find some good threads on building a 383, because I am not opposed to keeping the stock motor and just getting as much power as possible out of it.
Im not going to care about cost right now, just thinking about a reasonable project that wont take a year to complete (assuming I were working on it every weekend), want to put together the best system possible "on paper" and then go from there.
Le Mans Master
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From: Kempner Texas
A 400 block bored .030;
a 400 crank with offset ground journals to increase the stroke slightly which had the full treatment;
small journal 5.7 rods which were magnafluxed, shot peened and resized on both ends.
Retro-fit hydraulic roller camshaft setup, aftermarket aluminum heads, Mini-Ram, re-programmed PROM, TPIS long tube headers, Random Tech CAT, Corsa CAT back, etc.
All the standard machine: cleaned, bored, honed, decked, align honed, balanced, etc. I had Reher and Morrison do the machine work; they're in Arlington.
No idea about power and I don't race it. It's a daily driver that I've driven it all over the country and the combination gave me 23 MPG. I wanted a decent idle so I didn't push the envelope in cam selection.
The difference between it and a very similar 355 I built was truly amazing. That's why I listed cubic inches first in my 4 'C's.
Jake