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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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IF i wanted to "thicken" up my oil viscosity a bit for the very hot summer months, what product would i use EXCLUDING any stp products?...i currently am running mobil 1 10w-30 with only 1k miles.THIS EXCLUDES RECOMENDATIONS TO CHANGE OUT MY OIL TO A HIGHER VISCOSITY

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What do you want to gain from "thickening" the oil? Do you have oil consumption issues at high temps? The Mobil-1 10w-30 you're running should work fine with ambient air temps that reach 100 degrees and more without the need for an additive.

Mobil-1 can withstand oil temps reaching 400 degrees with no signifigant breakdown of the oil. Oil temps in race motors can easily reach 280 to over 300 degrees and that is not a problem with synthetics.
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What do you want to gain from "thickening" the oil? Do you have oil consumption issues at high temps? The Mobil-1 10w-30 you're running should work fine with ambient air temps that reach 100 degrees and more without the need for an additive.

Mobil-1 can withstand oil temps reaching 400 degrees with no signifigant breakdown of the oil. Oil temps in race motors can easily reach 280 to over 300 degrees and that is not a problem with synthetics.
....thanks for the reply HOWEVER, not looking for stats or any other information whether relevant or not, nor needing to furnish explanations for the question i have asked since i never stated any mechanical issues....

......if i felt the need to furnish any issues involving "mechanics" in order to get an answer relevant to my question, i would have stated so., just a SIMPLE product recommendation was all i was looking for and since i have stated NO mechanical issues, just the product name would do nicely......thanks anyway.
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Bet you get lots of help now!
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Bet you get lots of help now!

....well, so be it!.....to be given the "third degree" each time i ask a question, A SIMPLE ONE AT THAT, gets rather "old".....

....sometimes i think that some members simply post to raise their "star-counts" .... however, i asked a simple question that involves a return of a simple answer and it usually never happens....

...then there are the smart a$$es whom have nothing better to do then to aggravate and agitate with no legitimate contribution to the post or question.......and for the record, i was not necessarily criticizing the 1st answer (or the poster) i got, just clarifying what i was looking for
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Originally Posted by Da Mail Man
....thanks for the reply HOWEVER, not looking for stats or any other information whether relevant or not, nor needing to furnish explanations for the question i have asked since i never stated any mechanical issues....

......if i felt the need to furnish any issues involving "mechanics" in order to get an answer relevant to my question, i would have stated so., just a SIMPLE product recommendation was all i was looking for and since i have stated NO mechanical issues, just the product name would do nicely......thanks anyway.
Mobile 1 10w40.
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Mobile 1 10w40.
ya beat me to the editing of my initial post!
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Seemed that way to me, especially as I though I thought I could be of some help by asking some questions to be able to narrow down a suggestion.

But to try one more time and to answer another way, there are a number of additives on the market but some are designed to do specific things. Conditions of the motor or knowing what the specific reason is for an additive goes a long way to finding a solution that meets your needs which may include a product recommendation. BTW, I don't care for STP either

If it's a simple matter of a higher viscosity, then consider Mobil-1 15w-50. No additive needed and the 50w designation should help with high ambient air temps encountered in summer driving.
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Adding a 20w-50 will proportionally increase the viscosity. Valvoline Synpower Oil Treatment(VSOT) will do it, but will increase the Zn, P concentration.
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Originally Posted by Da Mail Man
ya beat me to the editing of my initial post!


Since a simple answer was desired simple answers are going to be provided



If you want good info you need to let people know what your thought process is. IE more zinc for flat tappet cam. Usually 5-30/10-30 is all a LATE SBC in good condition (l98---LTX)needs. Why the need for thickening?

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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
Seemed that way to me, especially as I though I thought I could be of some help by asking some questions to be able to narrow down a suggestion.

But to try one more time and to answer another way, there are a number of additives on the market but some are designed to do specific things. Conditions of the motor or knowing what the specific reason is for an additive goes a long way to finding a solution that meets your needs which may include a product recommendation. BTW, I don't care for STP either

If it's a simple matter of a higher viscosity, then consider Mobil-1 15w-50. No additive needed and the 50w designation should help with high ambient air temps encountered in summer driving.
......just need an ADDITIVE to raise the viscosity...but, for no other reason.....i do not want to add another qt of a higher viscosity/weight oil at this time (ps, i won't over fill the crankcase as i wil remove a same amount as i put in)......your response is well taken..
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Originally Posted by aboatguy
Since a simple answer was desired simple answers are going to be provided



If you want good info you need to let people know what your thought process is. IE more zinc for flat tappet cam. Usually 5-30/10-30 is all a LATE SBC in good condition (l98---LTX)needs. Why the need for thickening?
just the way i like 'em ....that is what i was seeking in my initial post to begin with ......no mention of cam, no mention of smoking, no mention of leaking seals, no mention of anything .
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Originally Posted by Sidney004
Adding a 20w-50 will proportionally increase the viscosity. Valvoline Synpower Oil Treatment(VSOT) will do it, but will increase the Zn, P concentration.

(copy and past from edited post #1) ;THIS EXCLUDES RECOMENDATIONS TO CHANGE OUT MY OIL TO A HIGHER VISCOSITY.

thanks for the reply....just looking for an additive, not to add any additional higher viscosity/weight oil.
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Lucas stabilizer is the only one I know of
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Lucas stabilizer is the only one I know of
...glanced at it and was giving it some considerations......
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Lucas stabilizer is the only one I know of

The stuff is pretty dang thick. If you do use it at the next oil change pour it in first then pour some new oil into the empty Lucas container and shake it well. You'll be surprised at the amount of stabilizer left on the inside walls of the container.
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Some people ask questions because they think they can give better help and provide a more valuable answer, if they have a better idea of what it is you want to accomplish. However, based on this:
Originally Posted by Da Mail Man
......if i felt the need to furnish any issues involving "mechanics" in order to get an answer relevant to my question, i would have stated so., just a SIMPLE product recommendation was all i was looking for and since i have stated NO mechanical issues, just the product name would do nicely......
I think Karo Syrup and/or corn starch should thicken it up.

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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
Some people ask questions because they think they can give better help and provide a more valuable answer, if they have a better idea of what it is you want to accomplish. However, based on this:I think Karo Syrup and/or corn starch should thicken it up.

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This guy always has a good answer I see. I think "Da Mail Man" didnt need the Ingredients of a cake. This is a corvette forum, not the cake baking forum. Good stuff though that Karo Syrup.
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
Some people ask questions because they think they can give better help and provide a more valuable answer, if they have a better idea of what it is you want to accomplish. However, based on this:I think Karo Syrup and/or corn starch should thicken it up.

RACE ON!!!
.....ok, if it works so well then, you go first and let us know! ........i thought that i provided the bare minimum for a person to understand the post....more simply; what additive other then oil will thicken my oil?.......that's it.....didn't and still don't see the need to post irrelevant information to bolster my request....

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Originally Posted by Black-Ice
This guy always has a good answer I see. I think "Da Mail Man" didnt need the Ingredients of a cake. This is a corvette forum, not the cake baking forum. Good stuff though that Karo Syrup.
.......and so my simple initial request for a simple answer!....as for the karo syrup goes, i now refer to the 3rd paragraph of post #5...



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