John, It took a while for me to get a set of rims. Seems like everyone who had a set thought they were gold and were asking $200 a piece, and they didn't want to sell just two. Even the so called junkyard wheels were $200/wheel cause they were refinished. Then a buddy came up with a set from his '92 that he wasn't using and loaned them to me. Maybe when people who have wheels that are a little rough want to get rid of them at a fair price more people would have DR's. BTW After two years of racing runflats, I put BFG's on and finally got into the 1.9's. :D


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I have two 8.5" x 16" corvette rims I will sell for $ 50 each.... These rims will fit either the BFG 25550R-16 drag radials, the same Nitto drag radials or 26 x 11.5 ET Streets. The 8.5" are 4 lbs lighter than the 9.5", and they work great. Drop me an emal if anybody is interested.

I also don't buy into somebody running 1.6 60's on true street radials.... that would be a feat within itself.

Beach

 

Is the manual tranny car pulling 1.6's perhaps AWD?

 

I see you guys posting a whole lot of Bull Dung on this board all the time, believe me I've seen a lot and you guys suprise me. That 1.6 is no crap, I never said it was a Corvette either. It happens to be a 94.5 Mustang with a supercharger, he did a burnout until his tires were mush, but it worked. They are Sumitomo, 100% street tires, aprox 12 psi, he proceded to run a 12.81 and threw flames out of the tailpipe on the 1-2 shift.

Believe me or not I really don't care. It just amazes me the crap you guys will believe, but not believe something as simple as a good 60' time. I ask you what incentive I would have to lie about something like? I'd like to hear your answers? It would be one thing if I said I ran a time like that, but then again I'd be in the 12's then wouldn't I?

 

I agree. My car isn't a track only car, I usually goto the track 1-2 year to see how I am doing. Yeah I like good ET's, but I want my ET to represent what my car runs on the street. So fasr I have done alright on street tire (usually low 1.9 with a few high 1.8;s). I don't want to become a "could of" excuse person like my GN/ttype buddy "I could have beat you if I had my race gas, DR's, and dump pipe disconnected ..."

 

I'm sure you're thinking of my nasty 2.4s the other night that I bitched about. :) I've used some DRs a few times, but ya' know what.... I like to think of a "Street" car having "Street" tires. :yesnod: And no, not those slicks with two groves that are DOT approved. ;)

I like to know what my car is going to do on the street, in street trim, with street rubber. :) So yes, I'll complain when I normally can turn a 2.0 in street trim, but can't on a particular night..... because I know that my car and myself are better capable than that.

 

Go talk to Power Shifter from MA in the Z06 forum then. I'll scan his timeslip if he'll let me borrow it.

 

Took a stage 3 clutch, heated slicks and a 5000RPM clutch dump on a sticky track to do my 1.66 60' time with my manual six speed. The drag radials are a nice compromise between the slicks and regular street tires. The only tires that I own for driving on the street or at the track are drag radials. A six speed with the drag radials and a sticky track can shoot for 1.7's but you probably are going to be mid 1.8's to 1.9's most of the time. The automatics do better with the DR's it seems. JMHO

 

What does this mean??

"I like to know what my car is going to do on the street"

There is no way to compare times at a drag strip to the street. There are no timers on the street, street surfaces cannot be compared to a drag strip. AND drag radials ARE street tires, particularly the nittos. I guess if your primary use is STREET RACING, i guess i sort of understand, but the same question would still apply...why not drag radials???

 

I drive me car everyday with Nitto's. They work fine and don't wear out as fast as BFG's. Too lazy to change tires between the track and the street and i like being prepared in case "playtime" occurs on the street. Regular radials were getting dangerous anyway. Just my opinion though......

 

Correct, but even with all of that it still gives you a very good understanding of what the car is capable of with or without stopwatches. For instance I went up against a LT1 Z28 this past friday and blew his doors off. Both of us in "complete" street trim. I always "thought" I could take them, but now I know.... and if one rolls up I know what to expect (if he's not crazy modded).

 

my dunlop 315 have just about enough traction to get the car rolling, a hint of throttle in any one of my first 3 gears and you'd think i was in the water box getting ready for a run at the track, they absolutely have zero traction, i was accelerating down a mild curved on ramp going onto I40 the other night in 4th gear and went to give her some more gas to pace traffic, the butt started to wander from spin at 70mph, i am spooked and do not like driving with these tires any more. i have a set of 275 nitto's on my stock directionals that grip like a gorilla dangling from a banana tree, love them and have been trying to find someplace that sells the new 315 nitto so i can get a set for full time use on my 11" rims. if anyone out there knows where i can find them reasonably priced i would sure appreciate the heads up!

thanks a million all,
Chris


ps, good quote, can ya name what this is from? "Tires is what wins a race Cole!" :smash:

 

There ya go again :rolleyes: flames out of a tail pipe ???? Yes possible if the car was running only headers, or a turbo, but can you please explain how the flame will travel through approx 3 feet of exhaust pipe, THROUGH a muffler, then through another 1-2 feet of tail pipe?

I have see some road racing cars flame through the tail pipe, but they were turbo, & unmuffled..

PLEASE go into just a little DETAIL... about the "Flames" , what kind of car was it,? what was done to the motor,? Did it have any type of exhaust system??

BTW I was at Maple Grove a few weeks ago, and I think I saw some flames coming out of the Top Fuel dragsters, & Fuel Funny Cars..

But to be honest I can't remember any type of Comp car or even an Alcohol dragster show flames out of their headers.. & they don't run mufflers..

To be honest when I was a kid, and had a 53 Chevy 6 cyl, I'd put it in 2nd at 45mph..shut off the key, and let it coast down to about 20mph then turn on the key ! :D one hellova BANG and maybe flame out if the little tail pipe.. I was never behind it to see..

Any of you OLD timers remember doing that :D

 

What is your problem, again why would I lie about it?????????

You say over and over that you haven't seen it. Well guess what, neither had I until I saw it. I'd never seen a cow until I saw one. The other day I saw an Acura NSX, I'd never seen one of them either. I guess that means that they don't exist.

I told you the car was supercharged. More detail, at the time it was a stock 4.9L motor from a 94 Ford Mustang. It has a Vortech Supercharger running about 10 pounds of boost. He has long tube headers and a flowmaster cat-back. He intentionally had the car running VERY rich he had done and was testing something and didn't want to run the risk of being lean.

He said it would probably blow flame out of the tailpipe, I thought he was joking. Sure enough when he hit the shift it tossed flames. I was standing directly behind the car so I can't speak for the length of the flames, but certainly visible.

A week or two later when I was not at the track he did it again. He didn't run as good a time but he was still running equally rich. A friend happened to have a video camera, he brought it in and showed it to me. I'll see if I can get the video in an internet form.

I don't know why I'd bother, you'd still say it's BS and that I edited in the flames.

 

After reading all the great posts i figured i'd say a few words to you all. I have horrible 60' times with both my cars. My Vette runs 2.3xx's all the time but I still ran a 13.7 at 101 with a stock car, see sig for my bolt ons. I am practicing with my Impala alot more since it's my daily driver, also ran a 14.77 @ 90 mph 2.16 60" this weekend at E-Town, yes it's all showroom stock on the original BFG's(47K). If I had a set of better street tires(notice i'm not saying drag radials or radials since there are only 2 types of tires, street legal or not) I am sure to have picked up another tenth or two, but i'm shopping for snow tires now.
So here's my point. How often do you drive your Vette? Is it your daily driver or your good weather car? Do you drive it in the rain or the snow? How many miles do you puy on it in a year? Do the softer compound tires handle as well as the harder ones? Do you road race in the super market parking lot when you are getting some groceries or is there a better chance of you racing someone at a traffic light on the way home? If you want your Vette to perform to it's max potential you should get the best tires for "your" application. I don't know if they had a 'drag" radial against 'road racing" radial shootout. I have seen many people have fast 60' times with non-drag tires, but those non-drag tires were made for high performance apps anyway, and they are made out of a softer compound for better traction. And as far as the 1.6 60' times on street tires thing, think about the guys who run in the 8's with street tires, I wonder what their 60' times are.....1.2 maybe?
So why don't you use a set of drag radials or road racing radials on your normal street car? I don't know why not. I am getting a set for my car(Vette) for the spring. I will get a set of Sumi's or something for the Impala for the spring.
Man this thread is just full of opinions, but that's what this site is for. As far as the people complaining, I always need a good laugh when I get home from work. I'll have a better set of 60' times next season, and hopefully there will be less Vette owners complaining about their tires and have faster times to post on here. Remember that Vettes were made to race not show, so beat your car up, that's what their made for. It's not like you can't fix it if something breaks...yeah it costs money, but you bought a Vette, so you don't have an excuse to use on me. :cheers:

 

Thats for setting us straight. Everyone that replyed to that 1.6 60' reply is a REAL racer and knows what it takes to to make a Corvette go 1.6 in 60'. That was all they were stating.
Since this is the Corvette Forum we had no Idea you were talking about some 18 year old, pimpled faced kid in a stripped down, over powered ford doing it for one run. Over on the ford board that may excite someone but around here that means nothing to us.

 

Drag Radials are on my X-mas list for this year - I've done about the best I can on true radials, although I will make a few street tire passes in March/April next year when the weather is at its best.....then the DR's come out.

I've had about a dozen 1.8x 60 ft. times on my true street tires (Goodyear GSC's), with a best of 1.869 - and a 6-speed :D.

Now, if I can get my 8 degress of knock retard straight, maybe I'll get a new best on street tires before the DR's.
Dave

 

Why not drag radials? Because I don't always have extra money to fix my rear when it breaks. I have just as much fun racing on my street tires as I do on my DR's. If you're bracket racing does it really matter? If I come out of the hole easy every time and run 12.9's all day like I did the last time at the track, isn't that the same as putting on the race tires and running 12.5's all day? As long as you can be consistant with what you have. Now for heads up racing traction usually wins the race. Also, FWIW, I have seen a car shoot flames out the back too. It was either supercharged or running a lot of compression, I don't know, but when he shifted 1-2, and 2-3, a small flame shot out on both sides. And he had a full exhaust.

 

If I could pull 1.8s on street tires I wouldn't even consider DRs. My goal is to make 12s on street tires so I'm relying on more motor to get me there, though DRs would surely get me deeper.

I realy don't care so much about 1.xx 60' times, it's only consistency at the strip that's an issue.

Finally Sat, after racing Fri eve, Sat morning and Sat afternnon, I managed to adapt to the changing conditions on launch and avoid wheel spin and that's all that's needed for bracket racing. As someone mentioned a while back you have to learn to "drive" off the line on streets.

Also, if you want the thrill of a lifetime, try driving home on the Parkway on DRs when you get caught in the rain!

But I have to agree with John, about complaints and not using DRs. I don't even think about the "what ifs", what's the point. I've made my decision and make no excuses for my short times. I enjoy racing too much for all that.

 

Dave, I am always amazed at your short times! I've raced against you in the Corvete Challenge and your car is awesome. Can't wait till next year to see what kind of times you'll be running.:D

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