coilover pros & cons
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Im Going To Die Tomorrowm Am I ????
hey centralcoaster, how come you havnt opened your big mouth again and replied back to my question ?
are you hiding in a corner now are you?
am i going to crash tomorrow and die am i ?
im still waiting !
i wonder what the moderators think of you talking such nonsence ???
good one
shae
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hey centralcoaster, how come you havnt opened your big mouth again and replied back to my question ?
are you hiding in a corner now are you?
am i going to crash tomorrow and die am i ?
im still waiting !
i wonder what the moderators think of you talking such nonsence ???
good one
shae
are you hiding in a corner now are you?
am i going to crash tomorrow and die am i ?
im still waiting !
i wonder what the moderators think of you talking such nonsence ???
good one
shae
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what are you trying to do?, do you want to start a fight do you?
who is the tough guy, whats this crap you are speaking?
and by the way i have plenty of stuff to worry about,infact it is none of your god dam business any way.
im not fretting buddy, this is how threads get locked be cause of this sort of nonscense.
ok then hero, what would you feel then if i were to joke about your family getting killed in a car accident, how would you feel ???????
yeah im sure you would be happy wouldnt you,not...............
good one, pat your self on the back and stop embarrasing your self in front of every one.smash:
Last edited by emo-vet; Jul 13, 2007 at 07:54 PM.
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OK ..back on track so it doesn't get locked.
There is always this failure talk when coilovers come up, but I have never seen any proof? pic
side note: I do think the shocks support some weight. My car started getting lower as the shocks wore out, when I got mine revalved, and to a higher setting, the car raised up over an inch. So it must support some weight, right?
Anyway, I think coilovers are good if you want to race or corner weight your car, adjust the ride height equally, lower more than you can with cutting bushings, and the ability to change springs easily.
I think the people that are getting better ride quality are getting softer and/or adjustable shocks, and/or softer springs, and this is contibuting to most of the ride improvement.
After getting my shocks revalved my ride quality went from OK to very rough, same springs, same big sway bars.
There is always this failure talk when coilovers come up, but I have never seen any proof? pic
side note: I do think the shocks support some weight. My car started getting lower as the shocks wore out, when I got mine revalved, and to a higher setting, the car raised up over an inch. So it must support some weight, right?
Anyway, I think coilovers are good if you want to race or corner weight your car, adjust the ride height equally, lower more than you can with cutting bushings, and the ability to change springs easily.
I think the people that are getting better ride quality are getting softer and/or adjustable shocks, and/or softer springs, and this is contibuting to most of the ride improvement.
After getting my shocks revalved my ride quality went from OK to very rough, same springs, same big sway bars.
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Until someone shows a pic of this broken knuckle and what led up to it, we can rehash the same ol monkey doo over and over again. But I'll try and add something new.
The dynamic force on the factory shock towers depends entirely on the speed the shock moves, and can be huge under certain circumstances, as I mentioned before. The force exerted by the shock is about
F = b * V
where b is the damping coefficient, and V is the velocity. Our shocks are a little more complex than that, and have variable damping, but that's beyond the intelligence of this thread.
The static force a shock puts on the tower is inconsequential. Gas shocks will lift the car (1" sounds excessive), because they hold the fluid under pressure. You can also easily lift the front of the car slightly by hand.
I think I'll stick with my stock springs though. If I can't drive well enough to find their limitations, then why the hell would I upgrade? If you want a fast car that is more responsive and stable, then spend that $1600 on track rentals.
Sorry for the late response, I'll make sure it doesn't happen again... and no it wasn't a joke. If you don't cut it out, I will harness the power of Voodoo.
The dynamic force on the factory shock towers depends entirely on the speed the shock moves, and can be huge under certain circumstances, as I mentioned before. The force exerted by the shock is about
F = b * V
where b is the damping coefficient, and V is the velocity. Our shocks are a little more complex than that, and have variable damping, but that's beyond the intelligence of this thread.
The static force a shock puts on the tower is inconsequential. Gas shocks will lift the car (1" sounds excessive), because they hold the fluid under pressure. You can also easily lift the front of the car slightly by hand.
I think I'll stick with my stock springs though. If I can't drive well enough to find their limitations, then why the hell would I upgrade? If you want a fast car that is more responsive and stable, then spend that $1600 on track rentals.
Originally Posted by emo-vet
hey centralcoaster, how come you havnt opened your big mouth again and replied back to my question ?
are you hiding in a corner now are you?
am i going to crash tomorrow and die am i ?nono
im still waiting !toetap:toetap
i wonder what the moderators think of you talking such nonsence ???
good one
shae
are you hiding in a corner now are you?
am i going to crash tomorrow and die am i ?
nonoim still waiting !
toetap:toetapi wonder what the moderators think of you talking such nonsence ???
good one
shae
Last edited by CentralCoaster; Jul 14, 2007 at 12:28 AM.
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Sorry for the late response, I'll make sure it doesn't happen again... and no it wasn't a joke. If you don't cut it out, I will harness the power of Voodoo.[/QUOTE]
why dont you cut it out firstly.
secondly ,gees im scared of your voodoo, i dont know what to do man i feel that im shaking and trembleing, not.
why dont you cut it out firstly.
secondly ,gees im scared of your voodoo, i dont know what to do man i feel that im shaking and trembleing, not.