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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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I just picked up a used Hypertech 354752 programer in box w/instructions. Can it be reset and/or does it have any value?
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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what do you mean "reset?"

Is it locked somehow? Don't the instructions say anything?
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 01:33 AM
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You mean reprogramed so it actually can be of some benifit to vehicular tuning?
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 04:48 AM
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I just picked up a used Hypertech 354752 programer in box w/instructions. Can it be reset and/or does it have any value?
I have one of these as well. There were several models of these devices. Some of them cannot be reset unless you take it to the original vehicle it programmed, attach the programmer to the connection and initiate the command on the device to remove the program uploaded. It then brings the vehicle to it's original programming and resets itself for the next vehicle. Most people don't want to do this as that nice program that is in the computer is making the machine run smoothly and to remove it is not good.

Apparantly, if you have one of the devices that has lost it's original vehicle and therefor cannot be reset, there is a guy in Texas that for $25 will reset it for you. But he can only do very specific models. You would have to contact him and let him know which model you have and he would determine if he can help you. I used him once and can vouch for his work.

His email is: amattei@mindspring.com
His name is Andrew Mattei

I found his name on the internet when I did my research for the same issue you bring up. He had a web site that challenged Hypertech's business philosophy of ONE vehicle per programmer. I disagree with this philosophy. I'm sure they sell more programmers with this mindset but they make a lot of people mad in the process ...


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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 05:12 AM
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The programmer is dead useless if all it can do is upload a preset program that comes from hypertech, if you cant upload your own program to it, what is the point? If im going to tune a car, i want to tune it properly, not half arsed.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Casethecorvetteman
The programmer is dead useless if all it can do is upload a preset program that comes from hypertech, if you cant upload your own program to it, what is the point? If im going to tune a car, i want to tune it properly, not half arsed.
Not really the situation here. These programmers have a long list of user inputs you can make to the program to customize the upload.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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They want to bash it, not understand it. Hypertech is on the hit list.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by wilsonbh
Not really the situation here. These programmers have a long list of user inputs you can make to the program to customize the upload.
Can you please name some for me and give some sort of example of how these user inputs are changed and specifically what inputs can be changed? Im interested to learn about how this device works.

I use TunerCat on my 94, and i can change every aspect with ease, and while i make changes, i can very easily see how they blend in with the rest of the setup. Can this be done on the Hypertech or is it all done via the screen on the unit?

2nd question, can this device perform any of the functions that would normally require a TECH 1 unit?
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They want to bash it, not understand it. Hypertech is on the hit list.
Who is "they"?
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Originally Posted by BADDUCK
They want to bash it, not understand it. Hypertech is on the hit list.
Those of us that have used it do understand it.
That is why it is on my (s)hit list
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So are you saying im right to feel as though it is a device of very limited use Pete?
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Originally Posted by Casethecorvetteman
So are you saying im right to feel as though it is a device of very limited use Pete?
I agree. Although it has been years since I used one, they were alot of money for limited use. On my friends ls1, were were able to tune shift points on the a4 and cooling fan speeds, if my memory is correct.
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How does one go about changing the shift points set into the unit though Pete? Is it done on a computer then uploaded to the device or is it done on the screen of the device itself? If its the later, i can see that possibly being a rather time consuming task to get it just right without the ability to see the shift points mapped out on a graph.
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Originally Posted by Casethecorvetteman
How does one go about changing the shift points set into the unit though Pete? Is it done on a computer then uploaded to the device or is it done on the screen of the device itself? If its the later, i can see that possibly being a rather time consuming task to get it just right without the ability to see the shift points mapped out on a graph.
The hypertech for the ls 1 allowed shift points to be adjusted right on the handheld. If I recall,,mph changes in increments of 1 mph. My buddy bought it off e-bay for $75. After using it, he resold it for $100.
I do remember that the tuning program slowed the car down 2 tenths and 2 mph in the 1/4 mile.
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Those of us that have used it do understand it.
That is why it is on my (s)hit list
My point is, understand something first and make an informed decision. That has saved me time and money over the years. Just to bash something to be one of the crowd is not productive.
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My point is, understand something first and make an informed decision. That has saved me time and money over the years. Just to bash something to be one of the crowd is not productive.

In my case, I have come to my own conclusion based on actual hands on. They either work for others, or the power of advertising is good enough to carry the product onward. Hypertech has been in business a long time.
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Originally Posted by Pete K
The hypertech for the ls 1 allowed shift points to be adjusted right on the handheld. If I recall,,mph changes in increments of 1 mph. My buddy bought it off e-bay for $75. After using it, he resold it for $100.
I do remember that the tuning program slowed the car down 2 tenths and 2 mph in the 1/4 mile.
Thats how i can do it on my laptop with TunerCat too, but i can see the whole table as well as put it into a graph, which makes it quite easy to have a more flowing shift pattern. It looks like this for those who havent ever seen one:

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My point is, understand something first and make an informed decision. That has saved me time and money over the years. Just to bash something to be one of the crowd is not productive.
I dont think anyone here is doing that.
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Originally Posted by Casethecorvetteman
The programmer is dead useless if all it can do is upload a preset program that comes from hypertech, if you cant upload your own program to it, what is the point? If im going to tune a car, i want to tune it properly, not half arsed.
You are.
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Well, I don't race my car. But I used one to adjust my fan speeds to my own settings and tweaked a few more things from tips I got here.

I'm sure the tuning software works considerably better but then, I'm sure it cost considerably more too. If Hypertech was as bad as stated in this forum, they would be out of business by now. For what it can do, I think its a great device. I paid $50 for mine on eBay.

I've never advocated that this thing was something marvelous to behold but does fill a market nich for those that just want a few simple/small adjustments.

Just my opinion.....

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Hi Casey
What is your laptop setup and what cable are you using for comunication with the car?
I am intrested in hooking up a computer specially to change fan parameters, which I understand Hypertech could do, but well, once I am learning on this I would rather be able to make more changes.

Can I use a Macintosh computer for scaning?
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You are.
You may need to go back and read what you quoted and continue reading it til you understand it i think. Cause right now, youve completely missed a whole word and that one word you happen to have missed is IF. I said IF all you can do is upload 1 preset program, the programmer is dead useless. And i stand behind that statement 100%, cause Hypertech tunes are generic, and dont perform. So im not bashing it thanks very much.
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Well, I don't race my car. But I used one to adjust my fan speeds to my own settings and tweaked a few more things from tips I got here.

I'm sure the tuning software works considerably better but then, I'm sure it cost considerably more too. If Hypertech was as bad as stated in this forum, they would be out of business by now. For what it can do, I think its a great device. I paid $50 for mine on eBay.

I've never advocated that this thing was something marvelous to behold but does fill a market nich for those that just want a few simple/small adjustments.

Just my opinion.....

Billy
The tuning software was only $69, so not that expensive really. I allready had a suitable laptop, however any computer will work fine. I can unserstand if all you want to do is what youve done and have no need for more.
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What is your laptop setup and what cable are you using for comunication with the car?
I am intrested in hooking up a computer specially to change fan parameters, which I understand Hypertech could do, but well, once I am learning on this I would rather be able to make more changes.

Can I use a Macintosh computer for scaning?
Im not sure about the mac for scanning mate, i have 3 PCs You would have to email the companies that write the software and see if they have a version for mac users. I made the cable myself from a diagram i have here.
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