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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Last night, I went to start my Vette, turned the key and nothing.
No cranking or anything.

The vats has been bypassed for a few years now. There are no codes being thrown.

The battary is good. The headlights are very bright and I am getting 12.9 volts across the battary.

I even pulled the battary and put it into my Suburban. The Suburban starts up fine with the Vette battary.

Today , I jumped the starter with a remote start and the Vette starts right up.

So it looks to me that the Starter and Vats are not the issue.

Any help ?

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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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Solenoid, check for power going to it when you hit the key.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 01:27 AM
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Clean the battery terminals. Unplug the clutch safety switch (gear selector sw if automatic) and jump the socket. Measure the voltage on the jumper when you hit crank position. If it measures 12v and no cranking, then you have a start solenoid/starter motor problem. If you jump 12v to the jumper, the starter should crank proving the starter is ok. If no 12v, then you might have a defective start enable relay or your bypass isn't working.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 01:43 AM
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I agree with JFB - Manual or Automatic transmission - my 85 is a manual - and every now and then the clutch safety switch doesnt allow the car to start - same symptoms as what you are describing. Hope it helps..........

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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 03:19 AM
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Check that you are getting battery voltage when cranking the key at the small wire going to the starter solenoid. Since jumping the starter worked, you're probably not seeing battery voltage there. Pull the wire and attach a voltmeter. Have someone crank the key, and see what the voltage is.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 03:26 AM
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Jfb has a great reply...however,if that doesnt work,The starter can still be the issue..it had time to cool down and start again.

Your symptoms sound like mine..when I used to get no starts and go under the car,Id hit on the starter with a hammer to get it to start again.

Im not saying this is whats wrong for sure,but you cant rule out the starter or solenoid because it fired up another time.Most of my starters went bad this way over time...wouldnt start sometimes,especially when it was just shut down when hot.Few hours later or banging with a hammer,it started again.

If your remote start works everytime then look into what has been explained.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic'89
Last night, I went to start my Vette, turned the key and nothing.
No cranking or anything.

The vats has been bypassed for a few years now. There are no codes being thrown.

The battary is good. The headlights are very bright and I am getting 12.9 volts across the battary.

I even pulled the battary and put it into my Suburban. The Suburban starts up fine with the Vette battary.

Today , I jumped the starter with a remote start and the Vette starts right up.

So it looks to me that the Starter and Vats are not the issue.

Any help ?

Vic
How is the VATS bypassed? If you have just bypassed the key like most do then part of the system is still operating.I had this problem and it was the starter enable relay.check out www.vatssuck.com
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic'89

So it looks to me that the Starter and Vats are not the issue.

Vic
Just a follow up, last Sat the Vette died at the track. Again I jumped the starter and it started 1 time, after that nothing.

Today, I took the starter out and had it tested at Autozone.

It was a bad starter. It didn't even move with battary voltage applied.

I had a lifetime warrenty on it so they gave me a new one.
Let's see how long this one lasts.

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how long was this starter in the car? mine lasted 22 years. and I don't get the hammer on the starter thing. it's a motor with a solenoid. how does a hammer help the armature turn?

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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by coupeguy2001
how long was this starter in the car? mine lasted 22 years. and I don't get the hammer on the starter thing. it's a motor with a solenoid. how does a hammer help the armature turn?
it knocks the rust loose,got me going a few times.
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