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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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I am about to look for the photos bogus posted but want to point out
that I meant to qualify my statement about #8 cyl gasket failures as
being symptomatic for L98's w/ aluminum heads, prior to '91.

LT1 engines like in your '93 haven't appeared on the radar nearly so
frequently.

Also, I see that Andy describes the failure as affecting #7 (rear driver's
side) in a post I just came across. However, others have written about
#8.

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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Slalom4me
I'll look for the thread where Andy posted photos of how his
gaskets failed there
Oops, it was Dominic Sorresso who posted the photos I had in mind.

Unfortunately, they no longer seem to be on his site.

Here is the thread - Might have signs of blown head gasket now.
Stingraynut's '88 had sprung a leak.

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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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I have heard the term STEAM CLEANED when referring to coolant in the combustion chamber. I imagine that is what you are seeing in the #8 plug. If you take the Heads off try to see how evenly the bolts are torqued. My neighbors Rustang blew a head gasket and one bolt was only hand tight, not a factory engine but from a professional builder. Could had been stretch, bad gasket .....? Again f the heads come off take them to a machine shop and have them checked for flatness, the AL heads can warp easier than iron.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Well, just got done with the leakdown test. Number 8 cylinder looks to be the cause. air was coming out into the coolant overflow tank. all other cylinders held good at 78-79psi with setting the gauge at 80psi.
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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Here's what the valve covers looked like. Also, not bad looking for 113,XXX miles on the clock.















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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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Do both head gaskets! It'll save you from doing the other one in a few weeks.
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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anyone have part numbers for fel-pro head gaskets, intake, misc gaskets?
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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Yesterdays progress. Took the manifold off, and saw some choco mild on the underside mostly.














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When you get the heads off, you'll see deteriation of the steel band around the top of the cylinder on the gasket. You will also notice it on other cylinders. Autozone or any parts store should have the gasket sets, buy the Felpros. The cheaper ones could cause problems, and the more expensive ones aren't needed. They will say you need to replace the bolts, but that is pretty much up to you.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by zr1fred
They will say you need to replace the bolts, but that is pretty much up to you.
What's the logic on this, BTW? I've heard that also and have done so in the past, but always wondered if it was necessary.

Is the assumption that the old bolts will have stretched and could provide less of a seal than new ones at the same torque?
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Supposidly they are stretched from the factory, and might not hold the torque when re-used. I've talked to alot of builders who say re-use them in a street application. If you use them and have a problem, you have something easy to blame.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ScaryFast
What's the logic on this, BTW? I've heard that also and have done so in the past, but always wondered if it was necessary.

Is the assumption that the old bolts will have stretched and could provide less of a seal than new ones at the same torque?
Yes, but the concern is that the bolts will fail.

Picked this up a long time ago off one of the aftermarket websites...

"Unlike a conventional bolt, TTY bolts are tightened beyond their elastic range past their yield point from which the bolt material can recover to its original length, and into the plastic phase of the bolt material. The bolt is permanently stretched and for this reason should not be reused. The reliability of these bolts once stretched is greatly reduced. If they are reused, they are permanently stretched further a second or third time. It is also for this reason why you should never retorque a torque to yield bolt."

Factory Service Manual says to not reuse as well.

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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
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"Unlike a conventional bolt, TTY bolts are tightened beyond their elastic range past their yield point from which the bolt material can recover to its original length, and into the plastic phase of the bolt material. The bolt is permanently stretched and for this reason should not be reused. The reliability of these bolts once stretched is greatly reduced. If they are reused, they are permanently stretched further a second or third time. It is also for this reason why you should never retorque a torque to yield bolt."

Factory Service Manual says to not reuse as well.

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and only a few dollars for insurance the bolts are good! Do it right the first time or pay for it later
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by KDuniverse
anyone have part numbers for fel-pro head gaskets, intake, misc gaskets?
ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS use NEW head bolts whenever you remove your heads! Don't ever reuse the old bolts, you are just asking for trouble.

Head gasket set: FelPro p/n: HS9966PT2 - Retail about $179.95

Head bolt set (times 2): FelPro p/n:ES72856 - Retail about $29.95 for each head.

The head gasket set should have pretty much all the gaskets you need to complete the job, including intake, exhaust, etc.

Remember, you need 2 sets of head bolts, one set for each head.
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