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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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My 85 has been really shaky lately. Its like you either have to floor it, or it doesnt move at all. Its weird. And when youre just barely holding the gas it just shakes like crazy. Has anyone experienced this problem, or does anyone know what it is? Thanks, Zak.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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I've not had that problem on a Corvette but I did have it on a much older Grand Prix.

Visually check each spark plug wire. Make sure there is no crosstalk between them by using wire guides and seperators.

Has anyone else touched the car? What if any mods have you made? Can you verify that the injectors are receiving a pulse with a noid light? Can you verify they are opening with a stethoscope?

What is the fuel pressure at the rail?

Do you have spark at each wire? Are any of the plugs fouled?

Any diagnostic codes? Does the PCV valve rattle when you shake it off the vehicle? Any loose vacuum lines? (esp the big one going to the power booster)

Did you last buy gas at your normal station?
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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I've not had that problem on a Corvette but I did have it on a much older Grand Prix.

Visually check each spark plug wire. Make sure there is no crosstalk between them by using wire guides and seperators.

Has anyone else touched the car? What if any mods have you made? Can you verify that the injectors are receiving a pulse with a noid light? Can you verify they are opening with a stethoscope?

What is the fuel pressure at the rail?

Do you have spark at each wire? Are any of the plugs fouled?

Any diagnostic codes? Does the PCV valve rattle when you shake it off the vehicle? Any loose vacuum lines? (esp the big one going to the power booster)

Did you last buy gas at your normal station?

I can only answer two of your questions.
I have not done any mods, and yes. I buy gas at the same station every time. What was wrong with yours? It almost seems like the engine isnt getting the right air/fuel mixture. And sometimes it feels like one of the injectors are clogged????? I dont know. Any ideas?
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Sounds like two or more cylinders are not firing. (fouled plugs, bad wires, etc.) Also how old is the fuel filter? Could be alot of things, those are the quickest/cheapest.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by zr1fred
Sounds like two or more cylinders are not firing. (fouled plugs, bad wires, etc.) Also how old is the fuel filter? Could be alot of things, those are the quickest/cheapest.

Knowing my luck we need to start at the most expensive and drawn out problems first. Well find out whats wrong faster that way, but anyway. Last year we put new plugs in it, and it started doing this a couple of months ago. Also, the fuel filter and pump were replaced just before this started happening. My Dad is going to take it to the shop it has been taken to several times, and get them to check it out.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Well there goes your $100 you saved up for mods. (This coming from a guy who's put thousands into his car not including labor and it's still basically stock.)
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Corvette85350
Knowing my luck we need to start at the most expensive and drawn out problems first.
That is not true.

Mine did this as well and was running like crap. The Wire loom had broken off and allowed one or more plug wires to drop down and contact the exhaust manifold. The housing around the wire was almost completely burned through.

changed the wires and the plugs. Put on new looms and off we went. Smooth as ever.

I think you owe it to yourself to visually inspect the wires prior to taking it to a shop.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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Or another trick is to pull the plug wires one at a time and replace it while the motor is running-if it runs rougher when off of plug then the cylinder is firing. no change when off the plug= that one is a problem
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Plugs, plug wires, distributor cap, rotor, fuel filter, this is what I would check and if that is not it,, I might suspect the cat-converter
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Livin the Dream
Or another trick is to pull the plug wires one at a time and replace it while the motor is running-if it runs rougher when off of plug then the cylinder is firing. no change when off the plug= that one is a problem

This wont hurt the engine?
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No.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Corvette85350
This wont hurt the engine?
Just make sure you use spark plug wire Pliers or you will get the jolt of your life.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Repzard
Just make sure you use spark plug wire Pliers or you will get the jolt of your life.

Lol. Now that would be hilarious!!!
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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check your TPS voltage. mine was off and the car would only idle, couldnt give it any throttle at all or it would studder and shut off.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CRV3TT3
check your TPS voltage. mine was off and the car would only idle, couldnt give it any throttle at all or it would studder and shut off.

TPS voltage???
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Repzard
Just make sure you use spark plug wire Pliers or you will get the jolt of your life.
SEEEE!!! that was a question I had in this and another thread.

Someone said the same thing about "just pull a wire off at the distributor". My question was while the motor was running?

Just being unsure of myself I didn't question further. But I'll say this......you only grab a wire, while the motor is running/starting, bare handed one time and one time only.
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Originally Posted by Corvette85350
What was wrong with yours?
The G'Prix had a plug wire that was shorting to the block. And another car, a Regency 98 (not mine), had a goober cross the wires while he was under the hood for something else.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Corvette85350
TPS voltage???
throttle position sensor...its the thing with the wires going to it on the side of your throttle body.

i believe the voltage should be .54 -.65
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Any time the car isn't idling good, first check for vacuum leaks.

If that doesn't reveal anything, do the idle set procedure:




Put car in diagnostic mode for 30 seconds (jumper top right pins A & B on diagnostic connector under drivers side dash)
Unplug IAC
remove aldl jumper
Disconnect EST (recommended for automatics)
Start car and adjust idle screw to 450 rpm
Shut car off.
For early adjustable-TPS cars, adjust TPS to .56 volts
Reconnect IAC and EST
Disconnect battery to clear codes.
Reconnect and start car. Should idle at about 700 rpm (may take a little bump of the throttle for the first few seconds.)
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you need to check the EGR valve, and determine that it's closing. Flooding the manifold with spent gasses while it is idling will not allow it to run good at all.
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