C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Eliminate pre cats?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:28 AM
  #1  
Kool88vette's Avatar
Kool88vette
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 3
From: Citrus Heights California
Default Eliminate pre cats?

I'm looking at this Y-pipe for sale at exotic muscle. Should I get any HP improvement? I have a Carsound high flow cat and catbacks with stock shorty headers.


C1151 STAINLESS STEEL FRONT Y-PIPE
This High Performance. Y-Pipe is designed to fit Corvettes 86-91. Recommended for off-road use only.

$ 195.95 ** APPLICATION: C4 / L98 86-91
http://www.exoticmuscle.com/webpage....CATSEL=EXHAUST
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:57 AM
  #2  
bogus's Avatar
bogus
Team Owner
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 40,156
Likes: 45
From: San Pedro CA
Default

do it. most smog folks can't ID a pre-cat from a calico.

the precats only work at startup... after that, they become power robbing pigs.

I would consider a high-flow main cat, too.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 01:12 AM
  #3  
Kool88vette's Avatar
Kool88vette
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 3
From: Citrus Heights California
Default

Originally Posted by bogus
do it. most smog folks can't ID a pre-cat from a calico.

the precats only work at startup... after that, they become power robbing pigs.

I would consider a high-flow main cat, too.
Got one, a Carsound cat. I heard I can gain about 10 HP. Anybody have any info on this?

Last edited by Kool88vette; Aug 6, 2007 at 01:35 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 02:05 AM
  #4  
89onlyZ51's Avatar
89onlyZ51
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,061
Likes: 99
From: Seattle WA
Default

You probably won't notice the difference in SOTP, but it will lower your underhood temps, which is always a good thing.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 02:07 AM
  #5  
bogus's Avatar
bogus
Team Owner
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 40,156
Likes: 45
From: San Pedro CA
Default

I have always felt that the L98 exhaust was it's biggest problem. The main cat will help.

So will losing the pre-cats. I think all in all, it will add about 20hp. You can now do some work to the intake and get another 10 or 15. It all adds up.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 02:09 AM
  #6  
RRT vette's Avatar
RRT vette
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 8,753
Likes: 9
From: Louisiana
Default

Either purchae a front y-pipe without the precats or take it to a muffler shop and have them cut off. Your choice. The only difference you will most likely notice is sound.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 08:18 AM
  #7  
Kool88vette's Avatar
Kool88vette
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 3
From: Citrus Heights California
Default

Originally Posted by RRT vette
Either purchae a front y-pipe without the precats or take it to a muffler shop and have them cut off. Your choice. The only difference you will most likely notice is sound.
The ad says nothing about pipe size. Stock is 2 1/4. If the new pipe is 2 1/2 like the rest of the exhaust system I should see some HP improvement. Right?
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 08:20 AM
  #8  
Kool88vette's Avatar
Kool88vette
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 3
From: Citrus Heights California
Default

Originally Posted by bogus
I have always felt that the L98 exhaust was it's biggest problem. The main cat will help.

So will losing the pre-cats. I think all in all, it will add about 20hp. You can now do some work to the intake and get another 10 or 15. It all adds up.
I worked on the intake it has a superram and a 52mm TB.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-6

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:34 AM
  #9  
bogus's Avatar
bogus
Team Owner
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 40,156
Likes: 45
From: San Pedro CA
Default

Originally Posted by RRT vette
Either purchae a front y-pipe without the precats or take it to a muffler shop and have them cut off. Your choice. The only difference you will most likely notice is sound.
no exhaust shop in the state of California would be caught dead removing emissions control devices.

Replace with the new part... it's a DIY project.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:37 AM
  #10  
BADDUCK's Avatar
BADDUCK
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,642
Likes: 5
From: One day you're a Comet...the next day you're dust... Arkansas
Default

Do it. I deleted my precats and went with Carsound (Magnaflow) on the main cat. It will probably be louder on decel.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:47 AM
  #11  
rick lambert's Avatar
rick lambert
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 6,130
Likes: 2
From: seattle WA
Default

the exhaust is to restrictive on our vettes, but I'm not sure I'd pay the price their asking.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:30 AM
  #12  
Aardwolf's Avatar
Aardwolf
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 13,952
Likes: 706
From: WI
Default

$200 is way to much for that IMO. I would cut them off and use expanded end pipes with clamps, in the cats place. Or cut them off and have a shop weld pipe in. Either of witch would save money. And be less work since you don't have to try and remove the bolts from the manifolds.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:55 AM
  #13  
BADDUCK's Avatar
BADDUCK
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,642
Likes: 5
From: One day you're a Comet...the next day you're dust... Arkansas
Default

I had my cats cut off and sleeved. Just not sure they will do that in Kalifornea. It was $50.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:07 PM
  #14  
bogus's Avatar
bogus
Team Owner
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 40,156
Likes: 45
From: San Pedro CA
Default

uh, lemme try this again:

NO CALIFORNIA SHOP IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD REMOVE AN EMISSIONS DEVICE.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:11 PM
  #15  
Staehling's Avatar
Staehling
Pro
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 702
Likes: 6
From: North Vancouver BC
Default

Mine are removed+sleeved, definitely sounds better.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:32 PM
  #16  
Kool88vette's Avatar
Kool88vette
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 3
From: Citrus Heights California
Default

Originally Posted by bogus
uh, lemme try this again:

NO CALIFORNIA SHOP IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD REMOVE AN EMISSIONS DEVICE.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:45 PM
  #17  
BADDUCK's Avatar
BADDUCK
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,642
Likes: 5
From: One day you're a Comet...the next day you're dust... Arkansas
Default

Originally Posted by bogus
uh, lemme try this again:

NO CALIFORNIA SHOP IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD REMOVE AN EMISSIONS DEVICE.
GOT IT THE FIRST TIME!
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Eliminate pre cats?

Old Aug 6, 2007 | 01:13 PM
  #18  
Kool88vette's Avatar
Kool88vette
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 3
From: Citrus Heights California
Default

Originally Posted by BADDUCK
GOT IT THE FIRST TIME!
Those damn Kalifornia smog *****. I just called a mechanic friend and he said it a big fine here if you get caught with no pre cats.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 01:14 PM
  #19  
bogus's Avatar
bogus
Team Owner
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 40,156
Likes: 45
From: San Pedro CA
Default

Originally Posted by Kool88vette
Those damn Kalifornia smog *****. I just called a mechanic friend and he said it a big fine here if you get caught with no pre cats.
What part of illegal don't we understand?

It is illegal... they are just useless bits of added weight.

Get the new pipe and DIY. Check Performance Peddler, too.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 02:15 PM
  #20  
RRT vette's Avatar
RRT vette
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 8,753
Likes: 9
From: Louisiana
Default

Originally Posted by bogus
no exhaust shop in the state of California would be caught dead removing emissions control devices.

Replace with the new part... it's a DIY project.
Didn't notice the OP was in California. In that case, purchase the front y-pipe and install.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:25 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-1
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE