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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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Do I really have to buy the '88+ starter to put headers on my '85? The smaller ones are like 3X as expensive.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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I used the stock one on my '86 with Hedmans. Go Hornets

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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Nope. You can keep your '85 starter. You'll want to reroute the wiring to it. Do NOT use a head shield. That holds the heat in the starter. If you have ceramic headers, you won't have a problem.

I just did this with TPIS headers. Very much a PITA to do. Get ready to replace your dipstick tube. Be very careful pulling it, or you'll be dropping your oil pan to pound out the stump.

Lots of Aerokroil I PB Blaster for a couple nites before attempting this.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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Hey thanks guys. Yeah I have Lingenfelter ceramic coated headers, longtubes. I didnt actually test the clearance yet, but I've been told to change the starter to the later model. Yes i'm going to make sure all the wiring is kept off of them, thats why i'm buying new wire separaters cause mine are trashed.

The bolts have already been broken loose a few weeks ago, but I have PB blaster just in case. Yeah I had to be careful with the dipstick when taking out the stock manifolds. I angled mine forward and then up and didnt even touch the stick.

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If you do the small starter now, it may save some time and labor in the future. A year from now if the starter dies, do you want to pull the exhaust apart to fix a starter?? I went with the small one. $160 for a 90 Vette starter and it went in, no wiring hassel, no heat problems, no problems.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 12:42 AM
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You will save time and money later by upgrading now, thats why I did it.

It'll be a real PITA to get that starter out in the future with headers on.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Hi guys---my 86 coupe automatic would not start the other day---and my radio (which is powered right off the alternator was not holding memory)--I thought possibly and alternator problem--but apparently my starter was grounded out and sending back up thru alternator. This is the 3rd starter this year---no headers--slight mods to motor--first starter over heated and the second starter fell apart inside (jingling around) replaced under warranty--now this one--we are going to try and install a Mr. Gasket heat sheald--like a metal canopy---I value you input---any suggestions?????
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I used to have this exact problem with my 85 with headers, I invested in a high torque tilton mini starter and Ive never had another problem. Prior to that I was going through about one a year.
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Originally Posted by WildWilly55
Hi guys---my 86 coupe automatic would not start the other day---and my radio (which is powered right off the alternator was not holding memory)--I thought possibly and alternator problem--but apparently my starter was grounded out and sending back up thru alternator. This is the 3rd starter this year---no headers--slight mods to motor--first starter over heated and the second starter fell apart inside (jingling around) replaced under warranty--now this one--we are going to try and install a Mr. Gasket heat sheald--like a metal canopy---I value you input---any suggestions?????
I question the quality of the rebuilt starter. I have usually gotten 70k miles out of the old style GM starter before any problems. It may be worth the $$ to get a better built starter. It is just not that much fun to R&R. No excuse for the "falling apart".
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On my 86 with TPIS long tube headers, the heat was killing my starter solenoid. I bought a solenoid heat shield from AutoZone for about $6.

The shield bolts directly to the solenoid and solved my problem. I'm running the full size starter, and I can just barely remove it with the header in place. A really tight fit, but it's do-able.

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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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I recently installed a Summit Denso style gear reducer starter in my '85. It was only $140 and was made in Canada. I'm not running headers, but this starter is way smaller than the factory '85 behemoth and allows you to rotate it in five positions for clearance. Works great and an easy install, I didn't even need to shim it. Because it is a gear reducer starter, the starter motor spins really fast and it sounds like I am starting a Cessna.
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