hows this for a wild cam,
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new 8 throttle body intake pictures !!!
hi guys,
my new 8 t/b pictures are on page 2 !!
i just came across this comp cam.
292 xfi hr13 hydraulic roller cam
adv = 292 intake
300 exhaust
duration @ .50" 242 intake
248 exhaust
lift running 1.6 ratio rockers
0.584 " intake
0.579 " exhaust
for computer controlled vechiles
rev range is 2,200 - 6,200 rpm
113 lobe seperation
cost $ 259.95
must need chip,headers,exhaust,larger fuel injectors,lower gears ,intake manifold e.ct they comp say on page
what do you think of that cam guys ???
pretty aggressive isnt it ???
im thinking to buy this one to go with my speed vette with 8 throttle body cross ram intake along with afr ported heads 195 cc,3.875 stroker crank.
i was comparing specs with tpis large cams and this on ei mentioned is larger than them all.
cheers
shae
my new 8 t/b pictures are on page 2 !!
i just came across this comp cam.
292 xfi hr13 hydraulic roller cam
adv = 292 intake
300 exhaust
duration @ .50" 242 intake
248 exhaust
lift running 1.6 ratio rockers
0.584 " intake
0.579 " exhaust
for computer controlled vechiles
rev range is 2,200 - 6,200 rpm
113 lobe seperation
cost $ 259.95
must need chip,headers,exhaust,larger fuel injectors,lower gears ,intake manifold e.ct they comp say on page
what do you think of that cam guys ???
pretty aggressive isnt it ???
im thinking to buy this one to go with my speed vette with 8 throttle body cross ram intake along with afr ported heads 195 cc,3.875 stroker crank.
i was comparing specs with tpis large cams and this on ei mentioned is larger than them all.
cheers
shae
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At that size Id go solid roller, thats just me though.
I would discuss this at length with a tuner first, thats a good bit of cam for a SBC...That one will need to be done in person to get it right.
Note: Bigger isnt always better but if the setup will take it...
I would discuss this at length with a tuner first, thats a good bit of cam for a SBC...That one will need to be done in person to get it right.
Note: Bigger isnt always better but if the setup will take it...
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I'm running something similar on a MAF set up, tuning it myself, and have MANY hours of tuning and data logging into it already. It can be done, but it's not a walk in the park.
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Running a considerably larger cam (249/254° @ 0.050, 0.670+" SR on 112 ICL) with FI. I never could get the tune right when burning chips for a factory ECM with MAF. But aftermarket ECM makes the tune fairly straightforward.
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That's a bit bigger on life, but slightly smaller on duration than the cam I am currently running;
242/252 duration @.050
.55x/.56x lift with 1.6 rockers
110 LSA
This is a Lunati hydraulic roller cam that I have taken to over 7000RPM and it continues to make power.
242/252 duration @.050
.55x/.56x lift with 1.6 rockers
110 LSA
This is a Lunati hydraulic roller cam that I have taken to over 7000RPM and it continues to make power.
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thanks for all your replys r.e the comp cam !
staugar i brought the dc&o 8 t/b cross ram intake for $ 3,300 aus dollars!
t/b shafts have bearings installed
it comes with 8 x 50 mm diameter t/b,s & cross ram 1205 ports.
120 mm long trumpets
cente throttle linkage, comes with m.a.p ports under neath,running red uni filter socks for the moment.
i will be posting up some pictures soon ,but i will need someone to post them up for me if possible, so may i email the pictures to one of you guys please to post up for me ???
cheers guys
thanks
shae
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hi there all guys,
thanks for all your replys r.e the comp cam !
staugar i brought the dc&o 8 t/b cross ram intake for $ 3,300 aus dollars!
t/b shafts have bearings installed
it comes with 8 x 50 mm diameter t/b,s & cross ram 1205 ports.
120 mm long trumpets
cente throttle linkage, comes with m.a.p ports under neath,running red uni filter socks for the moment.
i will be posting up some pictures soon ,but i will need someone to post them up for me if possible, so may i email the pictures to one of you guys please to post up for me ???
cheers guys
thanks
shae
thanks for all your replys r.e the comp cam !
staugar i brought the dc&o 8 t/b cross ram intake for $ 3,300 aus dollars!
t/b shafts have bearings installed
it comes with 8 x 50 mm diameter t/b,s & cross ram 1205 ports.
120 mm long trumpets
cente throttle linkage, comes with m.a.p ports under neath,running red uni filter socks for the moment.
i will be posting up some pictures soon ,but i will need someone to post them up for me if possible, so may i email the pictures to one of you guys please to post up for me ???
cheers guys
thanks
shae
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hi beppe,
how are ya!
ok mate i will send you the photos to put up for me,thanks!
i was going to be sending them to you first any way actually as promised.
yeah i would also like to know more about the cam lobe seperation actually ??
with the wider lobe seperation do you need a smaller number or larger number ??
the cam i mentioned above though would be a real ripper though mate,thats for sure!
hey beppe, bosch vette doesnt run a idle air control on his 8 t/b and says it runs a little rough at idle when first start up but after that is ok.
but i have the iac mod done anyway!
cheers
shae
how are ya!
ok mate i will send you the photos to put up for me,thanks!
i was going to be sending them to you first any way actually as promised.
yeah i would also like to know more about the cam lobe seperation actually ??
with the wider lobe seperation do you need a smaller number or larger number ??
the cam i mentioned above though would be a real ripper though mate,thats for sure!
hey beppe, bosch vette doesnt run a idle air control on his 8 t/b and says it runs a little rough at idle when first start up but after that is ok.
but i have the iac mod done anyway!
cheers
shae
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As a side note, this combo peaks torque at just under 6000 RPM, but will pull from 1600RPM on the street. At the old boost of ~12 psi, it made 430 lb-ft at 2600 (lowest recorded RPM) and carried somewhere from 500 lb-ft to 760 lb-ft between 3100 and 6200 RPM (where we stopped the pull). Don't be afraid of the "big" cams if you know your tune.
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r.e the tune, i will be getting pcm for less or fast chips to do the custom chip/tune work !!
so what is the ideal lobe seperation then to run ?
also whats the soild roller type cams mean please compared to hydraulic roller cam ?
cheers
shae
so what is the ideal lobe seperation then to run ?
also whats the soild roller type cams mean please compared to hydraulic roller cam ?
cheers
shae
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lower LSA typically means the engine will rev quicker, but be more difficult to tune and will take a hit on emissions. Typical emissions compliant cams start at 114 LSA and some go up past 117 LSA.
SR cams will have a solid roller type lifter instead of the typical hydraulic roller, which will allow higher spring psi and thus much more agressive ramp velocities. Typical factory hydraulic rollers are limited to ~135 psi closed seat psi (375 open seat psi), while a SR can have in excess of 300 psi closed seat psi (upwards of 700 psi open valve spring). You can judge by the psi limits which will do a better job of controlling the valve when high RPM and agressive ramps are involved.
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SR cams will have a solid roller type lifter instead of the typical hydraulic roller, which will allow higher spring psi and thus much more agressive ramp velocities. Typical factory hydraulic rollers are limited to ~135 psi closed seat psi (375 open seat psi), while a SR can have in excess of 300 psi closed seat psi (upwards of 700 psi open valve spring). You can judge by the psi limits which will do a better job of controlling the valve when high RPM and agressive ramps are involved.
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hi aaron,
thanks for your explanation on the lsa,s mate!
so then that come above mentioned at 113 lsa is in bewteen them all then as far as performance and emmisons then ?
so do you think that the cam obe i mentioned will still be good then please ?
cheers
shae
thanks for your explanation on the lsa,s mate!
so then that come above mentioned at 113 lsa is in bewteen them all then as far as performance and emmisons then ?
so do you think that the cam obe i mentioned will still be good then please ?
cheers
shae
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i was just wandering kindly why it can be a problem please ?
as i honestly wouldnt have a clue actually,lol !!!
whats the largest cam facts/figures that a custom mail order tune can do them please ??
cheers
shae
as i honestly wouldnt have a clue actually,lol !!!
whats the largest cam facts/figures that a custom mail order tune can do them please ??
cheers
shae