Interior Carpet and glue question
Using weatherstrip glue too close to the edges will push out.
They sell 2 kinds of 3M can sprays..one is heavy duty and isnt recommended for thin carpeting...can bleed through.I used the thinner kind thats recommended for carpets and thin trims.
It will say so on the can.
Great stuff.Just dont inhale the fumes.
:D
I tried the 3M spray adhesive on the passenger knee panel (which hangs upside down). I replaced the carpet without removing the panel (which seemed like a big job). Two days later was a hot day. I came home and found the new carpet lying on the passenger floor. So the spray adhesive was too weak. And it certainly wouldn't hold the heavy mass-backed carpet panels to the console side panels.
Two things I found - getting the knee panels out wasn't as hard as I thought, and Pep Boys sells a 3M fast tack trim adhesive which DOES work (see the 'Resto tips on my web site below for how to get the panels out and back in, and the adhesive to use).
Something caught my eye..did you say you had "mass backed console panels"?
If so, wow, I didnt know they made them like that.Usually every carpet in a kit that is mass backed(if you order that type)is covered, except the console pieces and the dash pieces.The transmission tunnel wall before the trunk starts,behind the seats, GM used a cheap thin rug while the kit DID come mass back for that.The spray can will not work there for sure.Lotsa glue and 2 pieces of wood,and 2 wood C clamps to clamp the carpet down over the sill and let it dry 24 hours.That worked fine for me.
At least in my case, my GM carpets and my new replacements had no mass backing on the dash or console.They were very thin with some kind of thin white plastic backing.
But still thicker then the originals.
I knew the spray alone wouldnt work,so i used the 3 yellow strip glue and used that going back and forth more in the middle areas and the spray glue nearer the sides,as I mentioned before.I did this because the GM carpets had some kind of stretchy rubber glue on the back of the original carpets.Figured this would hold it much better and has for 3 years now.
Did you have that as well?
Just wondering since I have an 86 as well.
Yeah, I can imagine on a real hot day with just using the spray adhesive, it can heat up and melt and cause the carpets to pull away.
3M yellow glue is pretty good..but I wonder if it crystallizes over time.But so far so good.Any thoughts on your experience?
:)
Something caught my eye..did you say you had "mass backed console panels"?
If so, wow, I didnt know they made them like that.Usually every carpet in a kit that is mass backed(if you order that type)is covered, except the console pieces and the dash pieces.The transmission tunnel wall before the trunk starts,behind the seats, GM used a cheap thin rug while the kit DID come mass back for that.The spray can will not work there for sure.Lotsa glue and 2 pieces of wood,and 2 wood C clamps to clamp the carpet down over the sill and let it dry 24 hours.That worked fine for me.
At least in my case, my GM carpets and my new replacements had no mass backing on the dash or console.They were very thin with some kind of thin white plastic backing.
But still thicker then the originals.
I knew the spray alone wouldnt work,so i used the 3 yellow strip glue and used that going back and forth more in the middle areas and the spray glue nearer the sides,as I mentioned before.I did this because the GM carpets had some kind of stretchy rubber glue on the back of the original carpets.Figured this would hold it much better and has for 3 years now.
Did you have that as well?
Just wondering since I have an 86 as well.
Yeah, I can imagine on a real hot day with just using the spray adhesive, it can heat up and melt and cause the carpets to pull away.
3M yellow glue is pretty good..but I wonder if it crystallizes over time.But so far so good.Any thoughts on your experience?
:)
As for the carpet, the original GM carpet that came off was like you described - most of it, incl. knee panels and console side panels, just had a thin plastic backing. Only the rear hatch center piece (and maybe the side pieces) had mass backing.
I bought my carpet from 1aauto.com, which resells ACC carpet. But they sell a heavier version called 'Custom Comfort' material. This is a denser weave than original, and supposedly will resist fading and wear better. It looks better than the original carpet too, not as scraggly. I don't know if any other ACC resellers sell this thicker material. But I'm happy with it. EVERY piece had heavy mass backing. Very little cutting and trimming was required - ACC had done a mostly good job. I wasn't sure the thick (and I mean thick) knee panels would fit up under the plastic dash, but they did. The door sills also fit, although tightly (from the thickness of the floor area carpets).
















