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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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I have searched the archives regarding the use of teflon tape on a CTS.
Seeing conflicting opinions. Can anyone say for sure what effect (if any) teflon tape will have on the CTS? Talking about a 1988.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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No teflon on the CTS.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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Most sensors rely on an electrical connection from the threaded body of the sensor to the block. If you put teflon tape around the threads, it is possible to electrically insulate the body of the sensor from the block which is connected to the negative terminal of the battery.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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The preferred sealant is teflon paste. Put a small amount of this on the threads, rub the paste into the CTS threads and screw her it. Do not use an excessive amount of the paste. You can get the teflon paste at Home Depot, Lowes, etc. The paste prevents leakage of coolant and allows the sensor to make electrical contact with the metal of the engine. The electrical contact is essential for the CTS to provide a signal to the ECM.

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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 12:29 AM
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The new CTS has a sealer base material already on it. You shouldn't have to put anything on it. I've removed and replaced mine many times and haven't had any problems with it leaking.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 12:36 AM
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With stuff like this, I usually put a small ammount of thread sealer only on the last few outermost threads. This way, I still get a seal and proper grounding contact at the same time.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Thanks all. My new CTS did not come with any sealer already on the threads.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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I always use the automotive teflon paste, it is high temp where as the pipe paste is not. I have found it to not get dry and crumbly in some applications. If the pipe stuff gets that way, replace it with the automotive. I too use some on the back end of the threads, mine leaked without some.
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If the sensor has two wires (one is a ground) then you can use anything on the threads and it's ok. If it's an older 1-wire sensor it grounds through the threads and the sealant must be electrically conductive. Teflon paste, tape, whatever are all insulators. If it's a 1-wire sensor I wouldn't put anything on it that it didn't come with unless the directions it comes with tell you otherwise.
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Originally Posted by JLeatherman
If the sensor has two wires (one is a ground) then you can use anything on the threads and it's ok. If it's an older 1-wire sensor it grounds through the threads and the sealant must be electrically conductive. Teflon paste, tape, whatever are all insulators. If it's a 1-wire sensor I wouldn't put anything on it that it didn't come with unless the directions it comes with tell you otherwise.
Sorry, I have to disagree. My car, a '90 has two wires going to the the sensor. When I replaced the fuel injectors this summer, I had to remove the CTS. When I replaced it, I used some teflon tape on the threads to seal it. I then spent the last 3 months trying to figure out why the car ran like S**t, or would not start at all. In the end it was the CTS, I replaced it, the car now runs great.

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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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an OEM CTS comes w/orange sealer on it, when I used it that way it almost recked the threads on removal. I have used paste and or tef. tape on the 90 w/no issues, currently it has tape.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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I have teflon tape on mine and have no problems.
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Teflon tape will not negatively affect continuity. The threads are sharp enough to cut thru the tape enough to ensure proper contact. Thread sealants are all designed to fill the 'valleys.'

Proof: Use some tape. Thread it in until tight. Remove it. You will see threads. Teflon tape is no match against metal on metal under that pressure.
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Teflon tape is not guaranteed to cause problems. It has the potential, if applied too thickly, to impair conductivity where conductivity it is needed. Many have used Teflon tape with NO problems, including me. Many have used Teflon tape and HAD problems, including me (if some's good, more's better, etc). If you use it on a device that must ground well to work properly, pay attention not to use too much. If you have a selection handy, the risk of problems are reduced by using a paste type sealant. As stated, oft times no sealant at all will be leak proof. It is hard to imagine a thread this basic and simple has 14 posts.

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Originally Posted by williammackean
Teflon tape will not negatively affect continuity. The threads are sharp enough to cut thru the tape enough to ensure proper contact. Thread sealants are all designed to fill the 'valleys.'

Proof: Use some tape. Thread it in until tight. Remove it. You will see threads. Teflon tape is no match against metal on metal under that pressure.
When I removed the bad CTS from my car, I could not see the threads, they were still covered by tape.

Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
Teflon tape is not guaranteed to cause problems. It has the potential, if applied too thickly, to impair conductivity where conductivity it is needed. Many have used Teflon tape with NO problems, including me. Many have used Teflon tape and HAD problems, including me (if some's good, more's better, etc). If you use it on a device that must ground well to work properly, pay attention not to use too much. If you have a selection handy, the risk of problems are reduced by using a paste type sealant. As stated, oft times no sealant at all will be leak proof. It is hard to imagine a thread this basic and simple has 14 posts.

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I think I wrapped it around the CTS three times.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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If you understand the physics of a threaded joint of any kind, bolt-nut or pipe-coupling, There has to be surface contact on the threads. Otherwise they will loosen or corrode. I use copper-based never-sieze on any connection that has the temp fluctuation of an automobile. My 1&1/2 cs' worth.
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tell a pipefitter or plumber (guys that work with pipe thread connections five days a week) that you want them to put any threaded joint together ''dry'' -- they'll laugh in your face and walk off the job..''reworks'' of leakers are not desireable.

i prefer teflon based goo, light coat, get your finger dirty spreading the goo around and down into the male pipe threads...never dope up a female (pipe fitting)

not a prob except on some alum intakes with minimal alum around the threaded holes, the teflon sealants can reduce friction enough to allow the installed male fitting to ''wedge'' and break the manifold...do not overtighten.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by pkazsr
If you understand the physics of a threaded joint of any kind, bolt-nut or pipe-coupling, There has to be surface contact on the threads. Otherwise they will loosen or corrode. I use copper-based never-sieze on any connection that has the temp fluctuation of an automobile. My 1&1/2 cs' worth.
Does that make a seal or just protect the treads from seizing?
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Does that make a seal or just protect the treads from seizing?
The threads should provide the seal. Teflon is a lube to prevent galling, never-sieze is to prevent corrosion.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by williammackean
Teflon tape will not negatively affect continuity. The threads are sharp enough to cut thru the tape enough to ensure proper contact. Thread sealants are all designed to fill the 'valleys.'

Proof: Use some tape. Thread it in until tight. Remove it. You will see threads. Teflon tape is no match against metal on metal under that pressure.
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