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Even though I helped get this thread started I am going to have to pull out of the group buy because after doing a good amount of research I am going to inadvertently destroy this front end. Especially for those of us with lowered cars or track cars or any car that sees lots of Daily driver use these front ends are going to be torn up. And I don't care about tearing up a front end if it costs 500 bucks but not when I have to keep replacing my front end at 1500 bucks a pop from Japan!!! By the way I still think this front end rocks but it also appears to turn our cars into front breathers instead of bottom breathers and i'm not so sure thats a really hot idea. I hope you all have good luck with getting these front ends and if you need any help in Southern California let me know!
Yeah that's a concern of mine as well. There's a reason our cars have that easily replaceable strip at the bottom of the front bumper.
But that front end is just absolutely gorgeous.
My car is lowered but doesn't see a tremendous amount of daily driving and I'm already used to being really careful anyway. Even if you have a lowered car though I don't "think" the front end will still be nearly as low as the rubber strip on a stock bumper. I could be wrong.
Look at the link on post #19. The front is about the same design as the OEM bumper from the top of the bumper to just under the fog light/turn signal wrap around. The original OEM design wraps under and has the opening for the air underneath and then has the air dam to pick up the air into the radiator. The BSM bumber comes down from below the foglight/turn signal wrap around, instead of wrapping underneath like stock. The BSM air opening is still in the same location as stock and only "appears" to be a "front" breather because the bumper goes down low in front of the car, where as the stock opening is hidden underneath. What we can't see from the pics is if there is any ducting to direct the air from the low point up into the radiator area. Remember that the stock plastic air dam is designed to "scoop" up air from that center portion into the radiator. Without the proper ducting or the lack of a pitch on the interior section of the BSM piece...most of the air would flow underneath the car. ALL that being said...From what I've read about the C4, the stock air dam is designed to scoop up air into the radiator to assist cooling at low speed when there is not alot of air flow. This most probably is not an issue for freeway driving and a concern mostly in stop and go traffic. We all know that the C4 tends to run on the hot side in traffic and the lack of flow may elevate the temps in some of our vettes. The bulk of this post is to illustrate that from the look of the pics of the BSM fromt bumper, it appears that the lower portion is as low or almost as low as the black air dam on the stock C4 front. Look at the pics on the link on post #19 and look how far down from the fog lamps the bumper extends. Then look at the avatar pic on my sig and look at where the stock air dam is. I am very careful parking and never pull all the way up to parking curbs. I have scrapped gently a few steep drivways. I have had my C4 14 years and my air dam has always looked great and I only replaced it once because road debris shot out from under a car in front of me on the highway and damaged it. But we all have seen those mangled air dams. They are cheap to replace, but the BSM piece would require a good fiberglass repaiman and paint. Also if anyone backs into it and "crack" In fairness to BSM, I do not know if thier piece is solid SMC. Some makers of stock "look" replacement style SMC C4 bumpers claim to have come up with a version that is "slightly" flexible though harder than the "rubber" stock front. That would be forgiving in light bump situations. I just wanted everyone to know the pro and cons of this SMC material and the low design of the BSM bumper before we all go crazy making a group purchase and spending alot of $$ to install and paint it...then regretting it later. Good luck.
I'm still trying to help RUKWKR getting his bumper. The shipping price they quoted was so expensive since they wanted to use wooden box to protect the bumper.
I am trying to see if they can get the price for normal shipping, like in a cardboard box.
I'm still trying to help RUKWKR getting his bumper. The shipping price they quoted was so expensive since they wanted to use wooden box to protect the bumper.
I am trying to see if they can get the price for normal shipping, like in a cardboard box.
I'm not to sure a cardboard box will hold up to good. What was the cost with the wooden box ? If I may ask.
Thanks,
Tony
That is alot, was that because of the wooden box they were putting it in ? I wonder if just a cardboard box will be that much cheaper. The size and shape are the same, just the weight and cost for the box will cause it to be more
Last edited by Zorro4153; Dec 17, 2007 at 11:09 AM.
Ok they just told me that if you don't want the wooden box, you will save like 20,000 yen, which is approx $178.
Even if shipping is a bit cheaper due to reduced cost, it wouldn't be that cheap...
I'm still thinking there must be a way to ship the kit for low price...since Bomex, VeilSide, Greddy, etc...are selling kits from Japan for not too expensive price, I know there must be some way to do it...
Last I talked to Timpo the shipping was pretty much exorbitant, anywhere from 2200 - 2500 (total) to get that thing shipped to my door which puts me out.
Hey, I love that body kit. So far that and the Lingenfelter are the only 2 I like and the Lingenfelter is ZR-1 only. I found an auction in Japan with good pictures of a black LT-1 with this kit on it: http://translate.google.com/translat...a%26start%3D10 (Note this is using Google Translator)