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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 01:09 AM
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After looking at the TPI shootout recently linked, I noted no large-tube setup produced near the power of a short-runner setup. However, the superram got pretty-darn close with a mid-length setup.

The article also said it was surprising that the semi-siamesed ASMs didn't do better at high rpms. (They were hooked to a standard, ported plenum).

Now I'm wondering if the opposing tubes (esp in the middle) affect flow of the tubes on the opposite sides. IOW, would the force of air being drawn to one side of the plenum lower the speed of the pulses trying to go the other way?

I wonder if a "longitudal" partition was ever considered to separate the plenum in two air chambers -- each side fed by one TB opening.

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 01:12 AM
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here we go....
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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here we go....
Hi Ron
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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Some people watch soap operas during the day, I watch GreggPenn threads.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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Some people must be really bored!
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No. Because the opposing tubes are staggered from each other. The pressure distribution would actually be fairly equal. They will have some effect on the runner they're paired with though.


Think of the plenum as a long rectangular strip of grass with sprinklers. If the sprinklers are spaced out along both sides, staggering them gives more even watering. The circular pattern of the water is analogous to the low pressure region caused by that cylinder's intake cycle.



Now let's get back to that TQ vs HP thread.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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Dang it....I really enjoy your threads Gregg.......
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Some people watch soap operas during the day, I watch GreggPenn threads.
Hey, it's fun to have a stray thought and throw it to the wolves. I like watching them tear at the raw meat in a frenzy.

Picking on wings and kits gets more boring.....

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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
Hey, it's fun to have a stray thought and throw it to the wolves. I like watching them tear at the raw meat in a frenzy.

Picking on wings and kits gets more boring.....

gp

Well if all else fails segue into 190 vs. 160 stats or Royal Purple vs. Mobil One.
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This stuff makes me glad I bought a ZR-1. There isn't much to think about in terms of upgrades. What intake manifold to use? Well, there's only stock. What heads? Stock. What cams? Stock. And now there is only one header maker as well.
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some people are so smug.
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Originally Posted by Aurora40
This stuff makes me glad I bought a ZR-1. There isn't much to think about in terms of upgrades. What intake manifold to use? Well, there's only stock. What heads? Stock. What cams? Stock. And now there is only one header maker as well.
368,385,415, and the list goes on.

I hear what your saying however.
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Originally Posted by 88BlackZ-51
368,385,415, and the list goes on.
Yeah, my wallet rules out those choices, so it's still easy
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Originally Posted by Aurora40
This stuff makes me glad I bought a ZR-1. There isn't much to think about in terms of upgrades....
That just gives you more time to figure out which kind of wax to use...

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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
That just gives you more time to figure out which kind of wax to use...

well played!
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Originally Posted by Aurora40
Yeah, my wallet rules out those choices, so it's still easy
I guess you will have to settle with less then 400hp. Thats not so bad.

Take it easy! Too bad that there is a limit with the ZR1, then you have to spend the big bucks.

BTW, The stock "TPI" sucks for making power. Pure and Simple!!

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Originally Posted by 88BlackZ-51
BTW, The stock "TPI" sucks for making power. Pure and Simple!!
Uhhhh.... all intakes "suck".... DUH!

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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
Uhhhh.... all intakes "suck".... DUH!

Did I say that peanut?
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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
Uhhhh.... all intakes "suck".... DUH!

My friend with the 4-71 huffer will tell his intake blows.
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Originally Posted by Aurora40
This stuff makes me glad I bought a ZR-1. There isn't much to think about in terms of upgrades. What intake manifold to use? Well, there's only stock. What heads? Stock. What cams? Stock. And now there is only one header maker as well.
Hate to ruin your day but you should see what Lingenfelter and Mercury marine did to those babies.Lotus did some wild stuff as well.
They are much like the jaguar V-12's.Over engineered and underpowered.A 1.6 litre Coventry Climax twin overhead cam motor puts out more oomph.I believe originally they were intended as a marine engine as mercruiser traditionally used GM blocks and sticking them in a car was an afterthought.
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