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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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ok guys have 1990 L98, i did the lt1 intake swap everything is hooked back up and having prob. with car stalling when you first start it open loop. seems when it warms up closed loop idles fine no stalling at a 1000 rpm little high but that is where it has always idled, any ideas as to why. i checked for vac leak with starting fluid and can not seem to find any, help is appr. geo. ps could timing effect this prob. car might not be timed to where i would like it around 8/10 instead of 6 car is in garage now because of winter, could it be that it just needs to be run so ecu can learn again

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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George,
You have the Coolant Temp Sensor in the remote thermostat housing, correct? make sure it is working properly, if you have a scanner, see what it is reading, and check your fuel pressure. Did you use a different distributor when you installed the new intake?
If you don't have a scanner, take the car to Auto Zone, and ask them to scan it.

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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randy i do have remote therm. housing i was kinda thinking about that also but it seems to be ok, but i have another sensor and can change it out to check. i did use the stock distb. fuel pres. is ok the way it dies is first start runs ok for 30/45 seconds then it will start to die and catch itself, a couple of those and it finally stalls, seems once it goes to closed loop everything is ok, i have a laptop and tunerpro rt so i can do some checking but might just wait till spring so i can get car out and run it some. thanks for help geo.

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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randy now that i looked at sensor i did use teflon tape on threads is that a no-no or will it not hurt sensor comm. with ecu
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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If I remember correctly, others have had problems with teflon, seems it interfers with proper grounding if you use to much i.e. covering all threads.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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rick or randy would permatex be ok to use, or might have to use a bigger wrench: will reinstall sensor without teflon and post results, thanks geo.

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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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rick /randy put new cts in no difference, fuel pres. is 41# still stalls when cold. and when it warms up i notice the rpm will go from 1000 to 7/8 hund. and then will go back to 1k seems like that is prob. when it warms up, no stalling just rpm down/up etc. any ideas, would timing cause that
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by geogolf
rick or randy would permatex be ok to use, or might have to use a bigger wrench: will reinstall sensor without teflon and post results, thanks geo.
little late but... use a smidge of liquid Teflon sealer with ECT sensors on the first couple of threads...enough to seal, but not interfere with grounding. DO NOT use Teflon tape.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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hey racer have any ideas about rpm up and down when warm, does not stall when warm just up and down rpm. i did the starting fluid drill and can not get motor to race at all
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The timing is not the cause of the stalling/idling problems. You seem to be past it, but Teflon tape can insulate the threads and reduce current flow or prevent grounding. A pipe dope, Teflon paste e.g. will seal without insulating. Is the cam mild or stock? I assume the stock 1990 ECM and chip? The symptoms point toward a lean mixture which is most probably a vacuum leak.

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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
The timing is not the cause of the stalling/idling problems. You seem to be past it, but Teflon tape can insulate the threads and reduce current flow or prevent grounding. A pipe dope, Teflon paste e.g. will seal without insulating. Is the cam mild or stock? I assume the stock 1990 ECM and chip? The symptoms point toward a lean mixture which is most probably a vacuum leak.

RACE ON!!!
As always, CFI-EFI is correct. I would check the vacuum line for the brake booster, and make sure that the fittings that screw into the intake are not leaking. I would use teflon tape on those.

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BTW, how does she run w/ the new intake?
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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will check brake booster again, sprayed sf every where i could think of and no revs but i wll put a couple hose clamps on brake b and see. i have not been able to get car out and run it but i sure like the way it revs now ps chip was redone by jesse for the bigger injs.
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Did you set the IAC correctly?
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akim i am guilty as charged, i did not set iac that is what i will do before anything else hope this will fix prob.
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Originally Posted by geogolf
akim i am guilty as charged, i did not set iac that is what i will do before anything else hope this will fix prob.
Make sure the timing is set right. Then use a scanner and get 20-30 counts for IAC when it is in closed loop.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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ok did the iac setup, and did help the surging up/down prob. but it just seems that this car will not idle any lower that 1000/1100 rpm and not stall out when you put it in gear. i set the min. idle at 7/8 hundred with car in drive hooked back up iac/timing wire and it idles perfect at 900 but when you put in in gear stalls out so when i set it at 1000/1100 and put it in gear idles around 8/9, i guess that the way it is 12/23/07 but i can live with that little prob. thanks for everyones help merry xmas geo
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Well, it is speed density and you might have to change your EPROM programming to get it to work properly. I had that same issue when I did the Superram setup. Lingenfelter fixed it for me./
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i did have jesse azzato redue chip for bigger injs. and he just redone it for a prob. with car running rich ,solved that prob.when spring hits again will do some datalogging, and may find a cure thanks for all the help geo.
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Originally Posted by geogolf
i did have jesse azzato redue chip for bigger injs. and he just redone it for a prob. with car running rich ,solved that prob.when spring hits again will do some datalogging, and may find a cure thanks for all the help geo.
You will need datalogging to fine tune it, I think.
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