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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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I'm trying to find out where my starter system failed, so I'm wondering if it's ok to jump the wire from the neutral safety switch to the starter solenoid wire. I know it would be taking the theft deterrent control module out of the circuit, but from what I Can tell from the wiring diagrams, that shouldn't hurt anything, right? This will tell me if I fried the relay, or if I need to keep digging deeper, right?

I've already tested the neutral safety switch and the ignition switch.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Describe the symptoms and we can possibly come up with answers.Just failed starter doesn't tell anyone much.
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put a voltmeter wire on the s (start pin) on the starter relay, and if there's volts when you try to start it, you need a starter
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 01:13 AM
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Had a similar problem on my '85. Check the voltage at the battery cable on the starter, should read 12 volts. Check the voltage on the cables leaving the starter. If you've got nothing check for a blown fusible link along the cables. Thats what mine turned out to be, a lot cheaper than a new starter which may not be the cure.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddy5
I'm trying to find out where my starter system failed, so I'm wondering if it's ok to jump the wire from the neutral safety switch to the starter solenoid wire. I know it would be taking the theft deterrent control module out of the circuit, but from what I Can tell from the wiring diagrams, that shouldn't hurt anything, right?
It's easier to just bridge the fat battery cable at the solenoid to the small terminal for a direct jump. That fat terminal with a large nut on the solenoid is alway hot, because it's coming directly from the battery positive lead. Use a wire bent into a "U' shape.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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BigDayy5, speaking of the theft deterrent module, where is it on the 85? I have been through just about the entire instrument panel and I can't find that thing. Where is it?
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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I had a problem on a 90 Vette & my 84 Vette with no start issue...When I installed a stereo in the 90 I musta hit a wire I wasnt suppose as I had nothing when I hit the key...I ended up unplugging every relay in the car...I opened the relays & made them untouch...I got LUCKY & it was fixed...It was a nightmare that took hours!

My 84 same thing I installed a radio & all of a sudden turn the key & have nothing! In the 84 I bypassed everything & have the car start with a toggle switch...I still have to turn the key to get power before the switch (air craft switch) will work but my problem is solved plus it looks cool! Look at my sig to see the switch where the dummy lights once were.


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Describe the symptoms and we can possibly come up with answers.Just failed starter doesn't tell anyone much.
Well when I turn the key, I get nothing. No click, no crank, nothing. When I try to pop the trunk, I get nothing. So I figure it's something electrical, since those two circuits are tied together.

Anyway, I bypassed the relay, and it started right up. Hatch popped too. I did a lot of electrical testing before I bypassed it, though, just to make sure. I wanted to verify it wasn't the ignition switch, or neutral safety switch. Both of those performed as advertised.

Right now, I think it's either the ignition interrupt relay, which I have bypassed, or possibly the vehicle theft deterrent module. I have a new relay I'm going to test out to see if that's the issue, otherwise I have to get into the theft deterrent module, something I'm not looking forward to.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddy5
Well when I turn the key, I get nothing. No click, no crank, nothing. When I try to pop the trunk, I get nothing. So I figure it's something electrical, since those two circuits are tied together.

Anyway, I bypassed the relay, and it started right up. Hatch popped too. I did a lot of electrical testing before I bypassed it, though, just to make sure. I wanted to verify it wasn't the ignition switch, or neutral safety switch. Both of those performed as advertised.

Right now, I think it's either the ignition interrupt relay, which I have bypassed, or possibly the vehicle theft deterrent module. I have a new relay I'm going to test out to see if that's the issue, otherwise I have to get into the theft deterrent module, something I'm not looking forward to.
Don't be scared,it's not that bad.It's just possible that you have a bad starter enable relay in the vats circuit.They can become intermittent as mine did.You will find it behind the center section of the dash.Those are all the symptoms,turn the key on everything lights up as normal but when you crank,nothing,nada,zilch.$12 or you can bypass it.Look at www.vatssucks.com for more info.The bad part is they will reset after ten minutes or so and everything is fine till the next time.I would jump it as explained and see if it cures your problem then if you want vats intact replace it.Much more likely to be that than the module itself.

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Yeah, I've already bypassed it for now, and all is good. I bought a new relay locally, and I'll be testing that out to make sure that's what it is. But since I'm bypassing the relay right now, I'm also bypassing the theft deterrent module, so I haven't eliminated that as a source of problem yet.

I don't have a VATS as that wasn't introduced until '86 and I have an '85, but there is definitely a theft deterrent system. Not sure of all the differences exactly, but I haven't had too many problems with mine.
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