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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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How hard of a job is changing the fuel pump in my '84? I'm sure some of you have done it!
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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Its very easy…take the 4 screws that hold the gas lid…take out the rubber piece that’s around the gas filler and you’ll see where the gas lines are… disconnect them and the electric plug… undo the bolts and pull it out…its something like that its really nice
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 12:09 AM
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Sweet, thats just what I wanted to hear! Thanks
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 01:54 AM
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It's a 20 minute job, at most.

May as well spend another 30 minutes and clean your sending unit to ensure that finicky gauge stays accurate for another 20 years.

Here's how.

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 07:40 AM
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Make sure you wire it right though. First time I did it I had to do it 4 times before it worked right. One time the float got tangled going in the the gas gauge stopped working. It is very easy though. While you've got it out check the condition of the rubber hose that goes between the FP and the metal lines. It can sometimes crack and leak without you noticing and cause a loss of fuel pressure.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 07:55 AM
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This was the first job I had to do too. Very easy but when I lifted out the rubber surround I found all the fuel pipes were rotted! Whole new assembly for me! Was quite satisfying though!

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Thanks alot you guys, makes me feel alot better about doing it.
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the 85 pump is same price as 84 but has better flow rate.. seems like every 84 upgrades this one

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Originally Posted by dabrettster
the 85 pump is same price as 84 but much better pressure.. seems like every 84 upgrades this one
The fuel pump doesn't "make" the pressure. There will be no increase in fuel pressure between a good 1984 fuel pump and a good 1985 fuel pump. Another case of the ignorant regurgitating falsehoods about which they have no knowledge.

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speaking as a hydraulic engineer, the pump in any system produces 2 things, flow and pressure. if the pump doesn't make pressure, what does ?
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Originally Posted by A88FXRS
speaking as a hydraulic engineer, the pump in any system produces 2 things, flow and pressure. if the pump doesn't make pressure, what does ?
As hydraulic engineer, are you serious? The pump causes the flow. The pressure is created by resistance to the flow. In the case of the C4 fuel system, it is the fuel pressure regulator. Remove it from the circuit and THEN check your fuel pressure. It will be close to nothing. The only pressure will be that cause by the resistance to the fuel flowing through the system. The pressure in industrial hydraulic systems is established by the relief valve setting.

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the relief valve regulates pressure created by the pump. a relief valve cannot create pressure. the size of the line cannot create pressure. the pump creates pressure overcoming resistance encountered moving fluid through line or other components. pumps are fixed displacement with a set pressure rating, some are pressure compensated with variable flow. in any case, pump produces flow and creates pressure. no other component can do this.
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Originally Posted by A88FXRS
the relief valve regulates pressure created by the pump. a relief valve cannot create pressure.
By posing a resistance to flow, (generated by the pump) the relief vlave does create pressure. Remove the relief valve then test system pressure. You'll see 0 on your test gauge.

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the pump creates pressure overcoming resistance encountered moving fluid through line or other components.
You mean components like the relief valve? Fluid "moving through line" will pose no (zero) measurable or meaningful resistance...or pressure.


Originally Posted by A88FXRS
pumps are fixed displacement.... some are... variable flow.
Depends on the pump. Some are variable some are fixed. What about hydrostatic pumps?


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in any case, pump produces flow...
That's the only test in your post that is correct. You may need to dust off your text books from school. The fact is, the biggest, baddest pump in the world, pump 1000 GPM of oil (or any liguid) won't generate a single PSI unless there is something applying resistance to the pumps out put. In the simple fuel system in a car, it is the fuel pressure regulator that both applies the resistance, and governs how much of it (pressure) there is.

I know one thing for sure, based on what you POSTED (hopefully what you typed isn't what you meant)...I wouldn't let you touch our fleet of hydrostatic drive, $250,000 snow cats w/a 10' pole. A hydraulis engineer? Yikes!
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This is getting interesting.......
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the pump is still the only component in the system that can produce pressure. a relief valve will protect and open at preset cracking pressure. a system (pump) can operate and produce pressure without a relief valve in the system if it was removed.
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Originally Posted by A88FXRS
the relief valve regulates pressure created by the pump. a relief valve cannot create pressure. the size of the line cannot create pressure. the pump creates pressure overcoming resistance encountered moving fluid through line or other components. pumps are fixed displacement with a set pressure rating, some are pressure compensated with variable flow. in any case, pump produces flow and creates pressure. no other component can do this.
WOW!!! A hydraulics engineer, Eh? Tom400CFI stole my thunder. A pump MAY be a positive displacement pump. Not all are. A pump is likely rated for a given pressure, but the pump doesn't create that pressure, it is just that it is capable of maintaining a minimum flow, GPM against the resistance of the rated pressure.



Originally Posted by A88FXRS
the pump is still the only component in the system that can produce pressure. a relief valve will protect and open at preset cracking pressure. a system (pump) can operate and produce pressure without a relief valve in the system if it was removed.
There can be no pressure without a force, the pump, to attempt to cause flow. But without resistance, there is no pressure. A pump certainly CAN operate without a relief valve. But see how much pressure you build in your hydraulic system, when you set the relief valve "cracking pressure" to zero. Or in the alternate, remove the relief valve and dump from the relief port straight back to tank. Now see how much pressure you build in your hydraulic system. And how well your hydraulic devices work.

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last time for me. if you take a simple logsplitter circuit that has a pump, tank, valve and double acting cylinder only and NO RELIEF VALVE and make it operate the cylinder the pressure and flow made by the pump will show on gauge. as cylinder increases effort ( work ) pressure will increase. since there is no relief valve to create pressure as you say, what is making pressure ? the pump, the only component that has the capability of doing this. have a nice day.
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Originally Posted by A88FXRS
speaking as a hydraulic engineer, the pump in any system produces 2 things, flow and pressure. if the pump doesn't make pressure, what does ?
You are a hydraulic engineer? The pump creates the flow. Resistance to flow creates the pressure. Now I understand why CFI is so cranky!

I are a Chemical Engineer

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Originally Posted by MK 82
You are a hydraulic engineer? The pump creates the flow. Resistance to flow creates the pressure. Now I understand why CFI is so cranky!

I are a Chemical Engineer
" resistance to flow creates pressure" which is one function of the pump. the hose, the fitting the whatever else cannot create pressure, only the pump.
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Originally Posted by A88FXRS
" resistance to flow creates pressure" which is one function of the pump. the hose, the fitting the whatever else cannot create pressure, only the pump.
Tell me what company you work for so I can be sure I never use it.

You need refresher training.
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