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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 01:59 AM
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Just bought a 93 to use as a daily driver. Currently feels pretty peppy even with stock 2:54 gears. From the start of looking for a C4 LT1 I planned on putting 3:73's and about a 2000 stall converter in the car. I previously had a LT1 Firebird and those 2 mods made a huge improvement in acceleration. But back then gas was still under $2.00 a gallon.
So my question is for you guys that have made the swap how much did it hurt your MPG? I used to not care too much but with local 93 octane at 3.65 it is a consideration.
A second question I have is how big of an improvement are the 3:07 gears over the 2:54's? I have seen some of these priced pretty reasonably at Corvette parts places.
Thanks for any advice/help.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 03:22 AM
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I went from 3.07 to 3.75. My mileage while the car was a modded CFI car, stock internals, using 3.75's, was low 20's hwy. The 383, w/a 2800 stall converter , at a steady 70mph got 17.9 mpg. All hwy miles. Hope that helps.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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With your current 2.59s, drive a couple of tanks without using 4th gear. That will be about the same as 3.73s.

Subtract another 10% from that since you'll be inclined to waste more gas with the higher gears.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Vis Croceus
With your current 2.59s, drive a couple of tanks without using 4th gear. That will be about the same as 3.73s.

Subtract another 10% from that since you'll be inclined to waste more gas with the higher gears.
So your saying he drive it in overdrive. Sounds like he has an auto.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Just another data point:

I have 4:10s (factory) in my LS2 Trailblazer SS (weighs 4500 lbs with me in it).

12-15 MPG city; 16-19MPG hwy
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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Yeah, I have an auto. I won't be too concerned with a couple of MPG. If it dropped into the 15mpg range I might be concerned. Weather was fine today. took it out on a cruise. At a steady 70 it was just under 2K rpms, showing 22-24 mpg.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Well I sugest that you look at the the post made a few days ago about what mpg everyone is getting.

The tc is also going to decrease your milage for the same reason the new gears will ..... your foot

My bet is that if you've got an auto like I do unless your daily driving is on the highway you will be seing an average of about 15mpg.

I will tell you this. If you've got a 2.59 just moving up to a 3.07 will feel like you went for a v6 to a v8
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My 92 is stock other than 3.54 gears and a shift kit and I average 20 mpg.
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Originally Posted by mcnulty95
My 92 is stock other than 3.54 gears and a shift kit and I average 20 mpg.

So how much do you think the 3.54s helped your performance?
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Originally Posted by mcnulty95
My 92 is stock other than 3.54 gears and a shift kit and I average 20 mpg.
I don't mean to hijack this thread but I'm just curious what you had in your '92 originally and what difference the 3.54's made... I've got 3.07's in my '92 right now and I'm considering swapping to 3.54's in order to launch it faster. I'm not so concerned with the top-end speed, I just want more grunt coming off the line.
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Originally Posted by carguy604
I don't mean to hijack this thread but I'm just curious what you had in your '92 originally and what difference the 3.54's made... I've got 3.07's in my '92 right now and I'm considering swapping to 3.54's in order to launch it faster. I'm not so concerned with the top-end speed, I just want more grunt coming off the line.
I had 2.59s and it made a big difference. SOTP it felt like I gained 50 hp. With the 3.54s, you might need different tires. I started spinning off the line.
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Originally Posted by 59VetteFI
So how much do you think the 3.54s helped your performance?
I'd have to dig some time slips up. If I remember right, I gained a couple tenths and a few mph. I can be rolling 10-15 mph and step on it and spin the tires. Secong gear barks too now.
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My car says I average around 18 to 20 but theres no way. Id be lucky to get 300 miles out of a 18 gal tank. You do the math.
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So your saying he drive it in overdrive.
No I said he should leave it out of overdrive.

Sounds like he has an auto.
Duh.
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Originally Posted by 59VetteFI
At a steady 70 it was just under 2K rpms, showing 22-24 mpg.
Just under 2k at 70 indicates a 3.07 rear not a 2.59. Or other mods like wrong-size tires.
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I have the 3.07 rear and a 2800 stall. I get about 16.1 mpg in the city and 21-23 mpg hwy. A higher stall or gear would be overkill for mine right now. Traction is already an issue. Without a stickier tire a higher stall and gear are useless. You may actually spin more and add time to your ET's. Spinning does not help performance unless you do that drifting stuff. Theres a few things you may want to consider. Are you planning on running DR's or slicks? How much do you drive in the street/rain compared to track use?



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99% of my driving will be in dry weather. I also will be doing auto-x with it. I've pretty much for now decided that 3.54 would be as high as I would go. But having said that right now even with the 2.59s I can easily spin the tires in first and it will also set off the TC on the 1-2 shift. Yes I will use special tires (Kuhmos) when I auto-x.
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Originally Posted by 59VetteFI
99% of my driving will be in dry weather. I also will be doing auto-x with it. I've pretty much for now decided that 3.54 would be as high as I would go. But having said that right now even with the 2.59s I can easily spin the tires in first and it will also set off the TC on the 1-2 shift. Yes I will use special tires (Kuhmos) when I auto-x.
I personally like the 3.73 or 3.75
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