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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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I see march has an underdrive pulley set for lt 1 and I was wondering if it even works for the lt1 heres why. I understand the concept of underdrive pulleys and I dont see where its a benifit for lt1's.First of all the water pump is driven off of the cam gear so the water pump is out of the picture all together.The a/c (if it is off )is just a free wheeling pulley so that is out of the picture. Next is the power stearing pump. Now I am not sure on this one but I thought it was only taking power to run power stearing when you are turning.Last is the alternator which definetly takes power to turn, but the march kit gives you a new pulley for the alt. to compensate for the underdrive crank therefore canceling out the benifit of the underdrive.Am I right in my thinking? has anyone tried these?are they worth it? thanks for your input. Rich
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Never liked these, a fully charged battery is more important.
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only useful on high rpm engines when you have a problem liquidating alternators. most the time you can just up the size of your alt pully and accomplish what you need to. L98s for example will roast alternators fairly quickly if you spin 6500rpm or more and have a stock size pully.
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Originally Posted by racebum
only useful on high rpm engines when you have a problem liquidating alternators. most the time you can just up the size of your alt pully and accomplish what you need to. L98s for example will roast alternators fairly quickly if you spin 6500rpm or more and have a stock size pully.
i agree, i have a 8500 rpm small block and i use one. i also ran them on plenty of street cars with zero problems
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The real question is why do you think you need these underdrive pulleys. There's very little gain and you risk a dead battery. I only see a downside here.

March is about a half mile from my house and I've found that they aren't very helpful. I asked them for a pulley set for my track car. I don't have an air pump and no a/c. They tried to sell me a stock set of pulleys and had no interest in helping me.

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Originally Posted by richN
I see march has an underdrive pulley set for lt 1 and I was wondering if it even works for the lt1 heres why. I understand the concept of underdrive pulleys and I dont see where its a benifit for lt1's.First of all the water pump is driven off of the cam gear so the water pump is out of the picture all together.The a/c (if it is off )is just a free wheeling pulley so that is out of the picture. Next is the power stearing pump. Now I am not sure on this one but I thought it was only taking power to run power stearing when you are turning.Last is the alternator which definetly takes power to turn, but the march kit gives you a new pulley for the alt. to compensate for the underdrive crank therefore canceling out the benifit of the underdrive.Am I right in my thinking? has anyone tried these?are they worth it? thanks for your input. Rich
First of all if you get the March 3 piece aluminum set you are reducing the weight of the rotating mass. Secondly the smaller pulley on the alt spins it a little faster keeping you above 14.0 volts output. The power steering pump runs all the time as far as I know pressure increases when you turn. Nothing cancels out the benefit of the under drive crank pulley except for the alt pully. IMO you are wrong in your thinking. I like mine, a good $150 investment.

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You can get the March Power and Amp type under drive pullys. I have a set. The alternator pully is a little bigger. It charges fine. I threw away my frisbee. I installed an Edlebrock polished aluminum water pump. I also installed polished aluminum March pullys and a chrome high out put alternator. I just wanted to give it more bling. But I swear the Vette performed better. It's been on about 2 years with no problems.

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I think you're right about not being much benefit on an LT1. I had a full set on my GT Mustang and I really could feel the difference, but the belt ran everything on that engine. I could barely drive it at nite becuse the lights would go so dim at a stop. I had to switch back to the stock Alt. pulley to speed it up, but then had problems with the tensioner not working right. It was hardly worth the hassle, and would probably a waste of time and money on an LT1.
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Originally Posted by racebum
only useful on high rpm engines when you have a problem liquidating alternators. most the time you can just up the size of your alt pully and accomplish what you need to. L98s for example will roast alternators fairly quickly if you spin 6500rpm or more and have a stock size pully.
What? How many L98's do you figure spin 6500 rpm and above?
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IMO... Very little gain for the bucks.

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thanks everyone, Ithink I'll spend my money elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by BADDUCK
What? How many L98's do you figure spin 6500 rpm and above?
mine does
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Originally Posted by racebum
mine does
Well, then it's no longer technically a L98. Different intake TPI's can't do that. Wha R ur modz?
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