Dex-Cool class action suit making progress
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Dex-Cool class action suit making progress
For those of you who have experienced coolant related problems/repairs with Dex-Cool coolant, you might find this interesting. Go to the following URL for details: http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com...ettlement.html
Although my '85 'C4 has never seen Dex-Cool, I became involved in this when my '99 Grand Am developed the notorious intake gasket leak and later the thermostat seized closed causing overheating. Not sure if/when this will apply for Canadian owned vehicles.
Feel free to share with friends with newer GM vehicles too.
Although my '85 'C4 has never seen Dex-Cool, I became involved in this when my '99 Grand Am developed the notorious intake gasket leak and later the thermostat seized closed causing overheating. Not sure if/when this will apply for Canadian owned vehicles.
Feel free to share with friends with newer GM vehicles too.
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Never saw anything about the $4.5M??? - I guess somebody has to get paid for doing the work and all I'd be looking for is out of pocket expenses - seems reasonable to me.
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"Attorneys's fees in an amount not to exceed $16.5 million and documented costs in an amount not to exceed $1.55 million"
and by the way the class is only for consumers of the United States, if you are Canadian, you are SOL. The specifics of the settlement are here:
http://www.girardgibbs.com/GM%20Clas...0Agreement.pdf
I am surprised to see that the owners of the V6's actually stand to receive from $50-$800. Typically, the only real beneficiaries of these suits are counsel.
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Actually, my original intent in posting this message to the TECHNICAL forum was to share information for anyone who may have experienced this problem and to possibly help out when talking to the person at the service counter about the repair bill, as well as to bring some closure to the longstanding debate about this particular 'long-life' coolant. Perhaps any debate about legal fees and the like is better suited to occur in another forum either here or elsewhere.
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OK then, let's get back to the technical side of this issue. If you have experienced a failure with a Dexcool equipped cooling system that you and or others attribute to a defect in Dexcool coolant you will be incorrect. Typical cooling system failures that are currently being being blamed on Dexcool are directly and entirely due to owner ignorance and negligence. Folks just drive the car these days without ever lifting the hood and decide to sue GM for damages when their coolant levels drop because they failed to maintain them at the recommended operating level. The stuff turns to sludge when air gets in the system which happens due to evaporation of the coolant in the recovery jug. Expansion and contraction due to thermal cycles eventually draws air in when the recovery tank is allowed to get dry. Now, everyone reading this should go out and fill their jugs with a 50-50 mix of distilled water and Dexcool and continue to drive worry free. This is good because it will free up your time to go post in another more meaningful thread elsewhere. 
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"Typical cooling system failures..."
Typical means 'not all'.
So substituting into your statement: "[NOT ALL] cooling system failures ... are directly and 'ENTIRELY' DUE TO ..."
" ... NOT ALL ... ARE 'ENTIRELY DUE TO "
???
What does that statement mean? (that's a rhetorical question, Mr Gore).
No matter; I took immaculate care of my pedigreed '02 Express van. It was part of a fleet, and my own personal besides. It also stayed running.
It developed the heater core 'plug' in 18 months. DO NOT TELL MR WIZARD HE DON'T MAINTAIN HIS VEHICLES. LET ME PUT THAT ANOTHER WAY: DO NOT TELL MR WIZARD HE DON'T MAINTAIN HIS VEHICLES.
DUMP THE DEX. NOW.
WIZARD OUT
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Yep! You're right. Be sure to use only Dexcool coolant in GM cooling systems that were originally designed for it and use only distilled water. The engineers were much smarter than we give them credit for and we will not be successful in second guessing them. Dex is perfect if you use it correctly. I always use Dex and would not consider anything else for a minute; I just bought 2 more gallons of it for another car here.
Keep the Dex!
Keep the Dex!
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Yep! You're right. Be sure to use only Dexcool coolant in GM cooling systems that were originally designed for it and use only distilled water. The engineers were much smarter than we give them credit for and we will not be successful in second guessing them. Dex is perfect if you use it correctly. I always use Dex and would not consider anything else for a minute; I just bought 2 more gallons of it for another car here.
Keep the Dex!
Keep the Dex!
I know people have had problems. I will not dispute that. But so far nobody has been able to 100% prove it was the fault of Dex Cool. Everything you have read so far has been opinions (even though some of them are experts). There has to be more to this issue. If it was only the fault of Dex Cool, there would be millions of cars affected.
But NOT everyone has had issues with it. There are by far more cars on the road without any issues using this stuff than there are that have had problems.
I'll keep using it in my 3 GM products. No issues at all, and all and one of them over 120,000 miles. The other too are approx. 85k
Everyone is entitled to use what they feel works the best for them. Same deal as batteries and spark plugs.
My only caution is to NEVER mix the two. If your car came with Dex Cool, and you want to change make dam sure you get all the old stuff out first.
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OK then, let's get back to the technical side of this issue. If you have experienced a failure with a Dexcool equipped cooling system that you and or others attribute to a defect in Dexcool coolant you will be incorrect. Typical cooling system failures that are currently being being blamed on Dexcool are directly and entirely due to owner ignorance and negligence. Folks just drive the car these days without ever lifting the hood and decide to sue GM for damages when their coolant levels drop because they failed to maintain them at the recommended operating level. The stuff turns to sludge when air gets in the system which happens due to evaporation of the coolant in the recovery jug. Expansion and contraction due to thermal cycles eventually draws air in when the recovery tank is allowed to get dry. Now, everyone reading this should go out and fill their jugs with a 50-50 mix of distilled water and Dexcool and continue to drive worry free. This is good because it will free up your time to go post in another more meaningful thread elsewhere.
Last edited by rickneworleansla; Mar 26, 2008 at 05:14 PM.
