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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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While inspecting the car after my last event I just found the rotor rubbing the inside of the caliper. Has anyone seen this before?



Nothing seems to be broken or lose. The grove is slightly deeper on the bottom of the caliper compared to the top. Both side of the car are the same. The fire path of the pad is aligned good on the rotor.

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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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Whoa, that's wacky! Are you sure the brackets aren't out of kilter somehow?
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Not that I can find. I just checked the wheel bearings by pushing/pulling on the wheel and everything is very solid. The pads look lined up on the rotor well.
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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Your rotor looks rusty. Might not be rubbing. Perhaps a previous owner or repair shop put the wrong size on for a little while? I would think that you would hear that noise quite loudly if it were happenning real time.
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Are you sure it's still rubbing? Maybe something was wrong in the past that damaged the calipers, but everything's fine now...? I'd put some paint on the scratch marks, put it all back together, then take it back apart in a few hundred miles and see if the paint is scratched off.
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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The caliper and rotor are fairly new. There is no rust, the Carbotech pad sheds red/orange colored dust.

I did put it back together and did not have to force the caliper into place. Which tells me something is happening on the track to cause the rubbing.
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 03:13 AM
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The picture shows a bolt holding in the caliper.
The is not stock. mine has a pin.
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by larryfs
The picture shows a bolt holding in the caliper.
The is not stock. mine has a pin.
I have C5 calipers on.
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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I think I had seen this mentioned on a camaro forum... if something wasnt quite right they could rub on hard turns, totally different brake hardware I know but maybe poking around the net will come up with ideas?
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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The only way that could be happening is of the wheel bearing is out and allowing the hub to move around.

Let me rephrase that, I think that is the only way it could happen. I am not really that smart so I could be way off

My .02 cents.
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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It is really obvious that the rotor is making contact with the caliber look at all the shinny stuff. Are there any bushings that go around the bolts for the caliber that could be worn causing it to drop?

Keep looking I am sure you will find it. Good Luck wro87
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Could the rotor diameter be increasing when they are heated up at the track? I'm sure it happens to some extent, but don't have a feel for how much one would expect. Perhaps the adapter brackets counteract or negate whatever consideration was made for thermal expansion in the stock C5 system.

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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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So far it does seem to be from thermal expansion of the rotor. Still checking things!
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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You must not be pushing hard. The rubber boots on mine burn off after about a lap
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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The rotors heat cracked and are close to toast but the boot did OK, maybe the cooling ducts helped that I don't know.
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Originally Posted by Aardwolf
So far it does seem to be from thermal expansion of the rotor. Still checking things!
I am not sure that is the answer. coefficient of thermal expansion for that material is known.

thinking that the over all diameter of a rotor is going to grow by .060" is quite a reach.

Understand, I don't know the gap between your rotor and your caliper, but thinking the gap is less than .020" of an inch just is not conceivable. I would wager that the gap is more along the lines of .125" if not more like .250"

the way my bearing flopped around, it is very conceivable that the rotor moves a 1/8"-1/4"

Oh, and lets look at where the rub is. On the front and the rear of the caliper. I am not sure if the radius of the caliper and the rotor are exactly the same, but I would also wager that the radius is almost the same if not exact. Why then would the scrubs only be on the front and the rear and not all the way across the radius??

Worn Bushings allowing the wheel to mover forward and backwards in relation to the Caliper.

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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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In my other thread Gary at Hardbar posted math that a 13" rotor, will grow .065 inches (diameter, not raduis) per 1000°.
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Aight, My guess is off by a bit....but does that explain the radius of the Rotor OD and the Radius of the Caliper ID being different?

if they are the same or close...then why not have a scrub mark all the across the ID of the Caliper? Why only at the ends?
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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The caliper is cup shaped in the middle so there is more room there.
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Any chance the rotor is oddball oversize diameter?

Just a thought
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