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Old May 4, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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ok, did my search, I have not found the answer to one question.

on the motive power bleeder, what unit do we use for these cars?
I have read there are different cap adapters and don't know what model to use.

they have the MP-0100, 0104, 0106, 0107....you get the picture

what one do we use for our cars? I am going to order me one since this seems to be the best option for brake bleeding (I have what looks like starbucks coffee in my master cylinder, time for a brake system flush)

what do you guys that have have these power bleeders recommend?
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I use the Universal 0101.
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If you haven't bought the bleeder yet, why not consider some authentic SpeedBleeders? A cinch to install and all you do is pump the pedal to bleed.
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I have read good and bad on speed bleeders, I have not yet bought the system, it is only $50 for the power bleeder, and I can use it over and over on various vehicles.

I have seen nothing bad about the power bleeder, so I am heavily leaning towards it. I am still open for debate on the subject.
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Originally Posted by janarvae
If you haven't bought the bleeder yet, why not consider some authentic SpeedBleeders? A cinch to install and all you do is pump the pedal to bleed.


I installed SpeedBleeders and also bought their little plastic bag with the bleeding hose attached - it was a breeze to bleed the brakes!
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I have a 1994 and bought the Motive Products Power Bleeder MP-0108 off of eBay. (Fits most late model GM cars and trucks). Since you have a 1995, it should be the same. The earlier years of C4s took a different model.

It works well, but I couldn't pump it up to the recommended pressure. When I did take it up to 20 PSI, the cap blew off. Not good. I figured out real quick that 10 to 15 PSI works great. No need to go higher PSI than that.

As for the conversation around speed bleeders verses power bleeder, I'll try to stay out of that one. Like everything else, I am sure that there are advantages either way, but I wanted to be able to do a compete flush and the power bleeder seemed to be better for that.
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Originally Posted by Overboost
I have read good and bad on speed bleeders, I have not yet bought the system, it is only $50 for the power bleeder, and I can use it over and over on various vehicles.

I have seen nothing bad about the power bleeder, so I am heavily leaning towards it. I am still open for debate on the subject.
I think the negative comments you have read have concerned non-authentic SpeedBleeders. I believe that the Russell bleeders are the source of these complaints. They are said to have bad thread sealer and leak. However, I have not read a single bad thing about authentic SpeedBleeders from Speedbleeder.com. The quick installation guide is to unscrew the old bleeders, screw in the SpeedBleeders until tight, then loosen 1/4 to 1/2 a turn and pump the brakes.

Here is some detailed info that I sent in a PM to a curious member:

The bleeders were $7 each for steel, but if you prefer the stainless steel ones are $15 each. Either type come with dust caps. In addition, I bought the Speedbleeder bag and hose combo for $6. The hosing could also be bought at Home Depot or Lowes, but you have to buy like 25 ft of it for $7 or so.

To install first remove the old bleeders. Since they are inserted into an aluminum caliper, they should be given a hit with a hammer to shock them. Don't hit them so hard you break the bleeder though. Then use either flare/line wrenches or Vice Grips to remove the old bleeder. The old bleeders are very easy to round-off, ask me how I know. Make sure that no debris falls into the open bleeder hole - I recommend taking a metal wirebrush to the brake bleeder area prior to removing the old ones. This will remove brake dust and any other particles in the nearby area. Hurry and install the new one as the fluid will be slowly 'bleeding' out of the caliper. Oh, and never leave the caliper dangling by the brake lines - you can seriously damage the lines.

Tighten the SpeedBleeders all the way and then loosen 1/4 to 1/2 a turn. Place one end of the hose on the bleeder and the other on the male part of the bleeder bag or old container.

To bleed just pump the brake pedal until you see no more air bubbles in the hose and new brake fluid being pumped out of the new SpeedBleeders and into the bag. If you don't buy the bag, drill a hole into a coke bottle and run the hose until it touches the bottom. That way any bubbles will be visible in the liquid when the bottle begins to fill. Don't push the pedal too far down though as some seals can be damaged, I've read.

Keep the reservoir full of new brake fluid. Always use new brake fluid. Never use a bottle that was opened more than a couple days before. Water gets into the fluid and is the enemy of brake fluid.

If you want the best fluid for your change, many forum members recommend ATE Super Blue racing brake fluid. It is a blue DOT 4 fluid. It has a super high boiling point and the color makes it easy to see when the old fluid has been swapped and for leaks. Ebay or an internet parts store is the best place to get it. The best fluid that is really easy to get a hold of would be Valvoline SynPower or Syntech, its one of those two names...You can find it at any major auto parts store. Make sure it is the synthetic, more expensive one though. The clerks will tell you the cheaper Valvoline in the white bottles is the same, but get the more expensive one. Its a brake fluid, get the better one. Its only like $4 a bottle anyways. I used 3.5 because my brakes had never been bled in 80,000 miles.

Close the bleeders of course after you're done with that caliper.

Good luck, I hope this helps in your decision. And I agree the Power Bleeder can be used on multiple vehicles, but I just liked the SpeedBleeder concept better.

Jonathan

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Sorry for the long post above. Here is a picture of it installed on the caliper.



While you're at it, you may want to check your brake lines and possibly upgrade to Earl's Stainless Steel brake lines - which I have yet to install.

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both concepts sound great. I have a bit more research to do yet, but they both sound like an extremely viable option. I want the least amount of effort with the best results, only because I want to take out my error factor and have the best brakes possible.
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I like te Motive Bleeder because you can fill/pressurize the tank, and completely bleed one wheel without getting in the car and pumping the brake. I also like seeing the old fluid turn to the new clearer fluid.
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Originally Posted by STL94LT1
I like te Motive Bleeder because you can fill/pressurize the tank, and completely bleed one wheel without getting in the car and pumping the brake. I also like seeing the old fluid turn to the new clearer fluid.

Only need one person to do it, no pumping the brake pedal.
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Originally Posted by Gary96LT4

Only need one person to do it, no pumping the brake pedal.
Just FYI, SpeedBleeders only need one person to do it too. You can also see the old fluid coming out and new replacing the old when you see the fluid flow out. Both products expel the old brake fluid, so no real difference there. From what I've read, power bleeders you pump the handle of the apparatus, SpeedBleeders you pump the familiar brake pedal. Regardless, both are one person jobs. However, the power bleeder can be used on multiple cars, while my SpeedBleeders stay on my car. I'm not trying to incite any emotions, just stating my experience and readings...

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Originally Posted by janarvae
I'm not trying to incite any emotions, just stating my experience and readings...
Nope, it's good to hear different options/opinions.
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