'87 ECM programming, hardware/software needed.
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'87 ECM programming, hardware/software needed.
Pretty simple really....
Links?
Prices?
Available BINs?
Thanks. :)
....perhaps an FAQ can be made with simple "if you have year XX, then you need XX stuff to do it."
Links?
Prices?
Available BINs?
Thanks. :)
....perhaps an FAQ can be made with simple "if you have year XX, then you need XX stuff to do it."
Melting Slicks
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From: Lockport NY
Re: '87 ECM programming, hardware/software needed. (scorp508)
I've got an '86, so you need the same stuff I got...
Pocket Programmer
Brand New MemCal from 18carfan (for emergency use, plus copy new BIN off it)
ZIF socket soldered to "old" MemCal
29C256 EPROMs; I got 5 (about $5 ea)
TunerCat
Craig moates software
an old laptop (486dx66 in my case)
AKM ALDL-to-PC cable
...You're ready to rock & roll!!! :D
Links? -
http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/unforge...night/prom.htm
http://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/tech/promintro.shtml
http://www.tunercat.com/tnr_desc/do_tc.html
http://members.tripod.com/moatesenheimer/gmecm/
http://www.xtronics.com/memory/EPROM.htm
http://www.akmcables.com/flash.htm
ftp://ftp.diy-efi.org/pub/gmecm/bins/
http://holman.cs.uml.edu/~sdurphey/bccfind/
Pocket Programmer
Brand New MemCal from 18carfan (for emergency use, plus copy new BIN off it)
ZIF socket soldered to "old" MemCal
29C256 EPROMs; I got 5 (about $5 ea)
TunerCat
Craig moates software
an old laptop (486dx66 in my case)
AKM ALDL-to-PC cable
...You're ready to rock & roll!!! :D
Links? -
http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/unforge...night/prom.htm
http://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/tech/promintro.shtml
http://www.tunercat.com/tnr_desc/do_tc.html
http://members.tripod.com/moatesenheimer/gmecm/
http://www.xtronics.com/memory/EPROM.htm
http://www.akmcables.com/flash.htm
ftp://ftp.diy-efi.org/pub/gmecm/bins/
http://holman.cs.uml.edu/~sdurphey/bccfind/
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Re: '87 ECM programming, hardware/software needed. (Rich B.)
I've got an '86, so you need the same stuff I got...
Pocket Programmer
Pocket Programmer
Brand New MemCal from 18carfan (for emergency use, plus copy new BIN off it)
ZIF socket soldered to "old" MemCal
29C256 EPROMs; I got 5 (about $5 ea)
ZIF socket soldered to "old" MemCal
29C256 EPROMs; I got 5 (about $5 ea)
TunerCat
Craig moates software
an old laptop (486dx66 in my case)
AKM ALDL-to-PC cable
All that plus alot of reading will get you going!
Melting Slicks
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From: Lockport NY
Re: '87 ECM programming, hardware/software needed. (Marcho Polo)
Needham's EMP-10...$139-$200
Spare prom chip...$40-$60
Tunercat runs $69 plus $20 for each 'definition' file
[AKM cable]...about $90....
Spare prom chip...$40-$60
Tunercat runs $69 plus $20 for each 'definition' file
[AKM cable]...about $90....
Le Mans Master
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From: Fort Worth Texas
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Re: '87 ECM programming, hardware/software needed. (Rich B.)
Needham's EMP-10...$139-$200
Spare prom chip...$40-$60
Tunercat runs $69 plus $20 for each 'definition' file
[AKM cable]...about $90....
...Craig Marcho custom chip...Priceless... :D
Spare prom chip...$40-$60
Tunercat runs $69 plus $20 for each 'definition' file
[AKM cable]...about $90....
...Craig Marcho custom chip...Priceless... :D
Thanks, but now I'm here to pass on the baton!!!
I'm not an expert by any means, but I have been lucky and been able to do about 100 great chips over the last two years, and a few not so great :(
Just like the parable.... 'Give a man a fish and feed him once. Teach a man to fish and feed him for life.'
I hope that I can teach what I know so that others can help themselves.
Drifting
Joined: Mar 2001
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From: Lafayette IN
Re: '87 ECM programming, hardware/software needed. (scorp508)
My setup is found here
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c4/highhopes85/
...and includes links for almost all the stuff as well as current pricing.
-Matt-
[Modified by HighHopes85, 9:03 PM 12/16/2001]
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c4/highhopes85/
...and includes links for almost all the stuff as well as current pricing.
-Matt-
[Modified by HighHopes85, 9:03 PM 12/16/2001]
Drifting
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From: Big D Tx
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Re: '87 ECM programming, hardware/software needed. (scorp508)
i use the pocket programmer from http://www.xtronics.com
also make sure you use 29c256 flash proms. the bin file for the MAF chip is 128k, but the chip is 256k so there is a certian address you have to burn it to get the flash proms to work, but they do work. on MAP the bin files are 256k so the flash proms are the correct size. so just get you a memcal with a stock part number from gmpartsdirect.com or a dealer by you, take the chip out of it, and solder in a 28 PDIP pin socket you can get from radio shack. it doesnt have to be a zif socket, but they are better. then use a scan tool ( i use craig moates free software, it works GREAT) and i use tunercat and winbin. winbin is free, tunercat isnt. ill mail you some more info i have scorp.
[Modified by 88L98, 11:58 PM 12/16/2001]
also make sure you use 29c256 flash proms. the bin file for the MAF chip is 128k, but the chip is 256k so there is a certian address you have to burn it to get the flash proms to work, but they do work. on MAP the bin files are 256k so the flash proms are the correct size. so just get you a memcal with a stock part number from gmpartsdirect.com or a dealer by you, take the chip out of it, and solder in a 28 PDIP pin socket you can get from radio shack. it doesnt have to be a zif socket, but they are better. then use a scan tool ( i use craig moates free software, it works GREAT) and i use tunercat and winbin. winbin is free, tunercat isnt. ill mail you some more info i have scorp.
[Modified by 88L98, 11:58 PM 12/16/2001]
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Melting Slicks
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From: Ca.
Re: '87 ECM programming, hardware/software needed. (88L98)
i use the pocket programmer from http://www.xtronics.com
also make sure you use 29c256 flash proms. the bin file for the MAF chip is 128k, but the chip is 256k so there is a certian address you have to burn it to get the flash proms to work, but they do work.
[Modified by 88L98, 11:58 PM 12/16/2001]
also make sure you use 29c256 flash proms. the bin file for the MAF chip is 128k, but the chip is 256k so there is a certian address you have to burn it to get the flash proms to work, but they do work.
[Modified by 88L98, 11:58 PM 12/16/2001]
Drifting
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From: Big D Tx
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Re: '87 ECM programming, hardware/software needed. (drive it)
Just leave the "start of buffer" 00000; change "start of device" to 04000 and "end of device" should be 07FFF
Drifting
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From: Bremerton WA
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Re: '87 ECM programming, hardware/software needed. (Marcho Polo)
I disagree with the need for a $40-$60 chip. Properly done, you can desolder the stock chip from a memcal and just swap the chip. I have two cars currently running that use a new chip (cost: about $5 each) that is friction fit into the memcal and it works fine. Been running for almost a year on one and 6 months on the other. You have to take a little care in ensuring the chip is actually held captive but it can be done. You can then just down load a base program from one of the bin repositories on line to begin programming from.
I'm always looking for a cheaper way :)
Cory
I'm always looking for a cheaper way :)
Cory
