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Old May 8, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Default Rear brake issues.

About 1500 miles ago I installed C5 brakes in the front, new (stock) calipers in the rear, new pads, rotors, and SS brake lines...

The car stops GREAT! But I think its ALL on the front brakes. I also think its all on the front because I get NO dust on the rear rims...

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- The rear pads are wearing un evenly.
- They are not "pintching" the full width of the rotor.
- E-brake is weak and on slight incline/decline it will not hold.

I have bled the brakes MULTIPLE times... I dont know what to do any more...

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Old May 8, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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Sounds like you need the DRM bias spring.

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Old May 8, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Sounds like you need the DRM bias spring.

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Yep, you can b uy it at your favorite Corvette on-line vendor...
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Old May 8, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackHarleyMan
Sounds like you need the DRM bias spring.

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Can you explain that in a little more detail? I like to fix things myself... If you could give me a little more background info on that. That would be great!

Thanks man!
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Good things often come in small packages. A lot of thought and successful racing experience went into the design of the DRM BrakeBias spring. Easily installed, this spring effectively puts more rear brake into your Corvette, giving you shorter stopping distances and more equalized front-to-rear brake pad wear. Also by having the rear pads do more work, front end nose-dive is reduced. This results in greater stability and vehicle control under extreme braking.

On the C5, the DRM Bias Spring easily installs in the junction block, and on the C4, it installs in the front of the master cylinder.

This above info was right off our website.
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Old May 8, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by drmrman
- The rear pads are wearing un evenly.
How so? Is the guide pin lubed and in good shape? How about the caliper bracket - is it worn or warped?

Originally Posted by drmrman
- They are not "pintching" the full width of the rotor.
The fronts don't do that either. It's probably normal. I'd take a look, but the car is at home.

Originally Posted by drmrman
- E-brake is weak and on slight incline/decline it will not hold.
The lever/cable mechanism is self-adjusting. Owners manual has details - IIRC, you just engage and release several times in succession. If that doesn't help, your caliper(s) may not be able to move within the bracket & clamp freely, as I was poking at up above.

I'd make sure everything is working properly before installing the bias spring. You may find that you don't need it and if there is a real problem, the spring alone won't fix it.

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Done deal! Thank you gentle men! I will pick that up tonight and let you knw if that works! Thank you!

*Is this also going to help my E brake situation?*
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Originally Posted by jrp
How so? Is the guide pin lubed and in good shape? How about the caliper bracket - is it worn or warped?



The fronts don't do that either. It's probably normal. I'd take a look, but the car is at home.



The lever/cable mechanism is self-adjusting. Owners manual has details - IIRC, you just engage and release several times in succession. If that doesn't help, your caliper(s) may not be able to move within the bracket & clamp freely, as I was poking at up above.

I'd make sure everything is working properly before installing the bias spring. You may find that you don't need it and if there is a real problem, the spring alone won't fix it.
I just purchased new calipers and cradels for the rear. So I dont think there is an issue with the mechanisms them selves... Everything is lubed... I will go home and take the rear wheels off and take pics to possibly explain better.

The only way I can explain in words is that the TOP of the pad is wearing and the bottom is NOT, making the pad look like it has an angle in it...Also you can see where the pad OVERLAPS the rotor but still doesnt grab it...

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Old May 8, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by drmrman
Done deal! Thank you gentle men! I will pick that up tonight and let you knw if that works! Thank you!

*Is this also going to help my E brake situation?*
The bias spring? It won't help the parking brake at all, since that linkage is completely divorced from the hydraulics.

It is apparent that your caliper isn't clamping the rotor correctly for some reason. IMO, the bias spring won't fix that either, however good it is at achieving a desired braking balance. Until you get things resolved, it will simply cause your rear calipers to clamp incorrectly with more force.
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Originally Posted by jrp
The bias spring?

Until you get things resolved, it will simply cause your rear calipers to clamp incorrectly with more force.
Worse yet, the additional force on the rear brakes may give you a false impression that you have corrected your problem. At least until you take another look down the road to find pads still being worn down in a horrible taper.
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Did you use brake parts lub on the new calipers?

From your avatar I assume your parking brake is via the disc brakes; have you adjusted the parking brake linkage per the FSM?
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The bias spring? It won't help the parking brake at all, since that linkage is completely divorced from the hydraulics.

It is apparent that your caliper isn't clamping the rotor correctly for some reason. IMO, the bias spring won't fix that either, however good it is at achieving a desired braking balance. Until you get things resolved, it will simply cause your rear calipers to clamp incorrectly with more force.
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Originally Posted by 65Z01
Did you use brake parts lub on the new calipers?

From your avatar I assume your parking brake is via the disc brakes; have you adjusted the parking brake linkage per the FSM?
No I used bearing lube which is the same lube that I have used on my 4 other cars with no problems.

I have not adjusted the E brake yet. I dont know where to get that information.
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